Turkey 'downs Russian warplane on Syria border'

[jalamanta]

Damn, it looks like bills did some damage this month.

 

[Nomadum]

They've warned Russia several times.

You're right, in the rules of war and airspace security then Russia was in the wrong if they've crossed into the airspace.

My personal opinion, the whole truth isn't evident yet but I do not trust Turkey or Russia to be 100 about it.

Putin to push trade in Turkey despite disagreement on Syria

Turkey's imminent ascension to the presidency of the G20 makes bilateral ties particularly important, Ushakov said, adding that Syria would be discussed in "great detail".

So evidently Turkey is taking on the role of presidency for the G20

https://g20.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/2015-TURKEY-G-20-PRESIDENCY-FINAL.pdf

I might've jumped the gun in thinking it was all Turkey, it might be Russia forcing Turkey's hand or Turkey and Russia both playing dirty

either way, whoever right or wrong, if Russia go ape shyt and Turkey go ape shyt WW3

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[ADevilYouKhow]

Vladimir Putin Never Thought Turkey Would Make Good on Its Threats

 

[JahFocus CS]

Russia knows Turkey is vulnerable in other ways. They'll get clapped at somewhere

 

[Nomadum]

Vladimir Putin Never Thought Turkey Would Make Good on Its Threats

Hold up,

“In any case, our pilots—our plane—in no way threatened the Turkish Republic,” Putin said. The warplane was carrying out a mission to hunt down Russian volunteers fighting with ISIS, which was the primary goal of Russia’s nearly two-month air campaign in Syria, according to the Russian president."

Putin claiming he hit only Russian citizens who went to ISIS

If anything is clear, it’s that Putin was genuinely surprised by Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan’s temerity to make good on threats made after Russian warplanes violated Turkey’s airspace twice in early October. Erdogan insists the Su-24 repeatedly flew over Turkish territory and ignored 10 warnings before it was shot down. Just on Friday, the Turkish government protested that Russian airstrikes in the area were killing ethnic Turkmens, not terrorists.

But President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan says they've been hitting ethnic Turkmens

Putin didn’t admit that a bomb had caused the crash until after the Paris attacks, defusing any domestic unhappiness about his Syria campaign by turning it into a fight against international terrorism

I noticed the timing too, but I said it would be dumb to lie about it. or fake shyt, but they're saying he knew it was a bomb and waited for timing?

*Edited to add, plus the reports circulating (none backed up or substantiated) claiming the Paris attackers looked Russian.

Putin acknowledged Turkey’s “regional interests,” a nod to Erdogan’s underground war against ethnic Kurds and even some illegal oil purchases from ISIS on the side. In his rage, the Russian president estimated ISIS oil sales via Turkey in the tens and hundreds of millions of dollars, if not billions.

all this shyt is wild.

 

[ADevilYouKhow]

Russia knows Turkey is vulnerable in other ways. They'll get clapped at somewhere

Russia is getting its shyt pushed in on multiple fronts...

The only way this could get worse is if China distanced themselves even further. Trade has actually fallen off between the two.

 

[JahFocus CS]

Russia is getting its shyt pushed in on multiple fronts...

The only way this could get worse is if China distanced themselves even further. Trade has actually fallen off between the two.

I agree, Russia is in a bad spot. That's what makes the geopolitical environment so dangerous.

There are still opportunities to cause problems for Turkey though, including Kurds and energy.

 

[Mr.Big Meat McGee]

Russia got big headed and got it's card pulled.

 

[tru_m.a.c]

Which part? The Kurds?

Yeah how do yo think this ends up with the russians creating and securing a sovereign kurdish territory

 

[joeychizzle]

 

[88m3]

 

[Tommy Knocks]

I going to refrain from saying Russia got its card pull until the end of the year.

Turkey better stay in the house, cause Russia riding around the neighborhood ready to light any Turkish plane up. I don't even think commercial airplanes are exempt.

 

[joeychizzle]

 

[88m3]

Why The Hell Did Turkey Shoot Down a Russian Fighter Jet? | VICE News

Russia Traders Have Been Here Before But This Time It's Worse

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...hoot-down-maps.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur

Maps from Russia and Turkey tell very different stories about the downed jet

 

[jalamanta]

This baby is already heading towards Russian airbase in Syria.

I suggest not flying Turkish Airlines in the near future.