Tyler the Creator has NO hit records and is officially overrated.

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I wish you nikkas would stop using this term because we all know what aesthetic and standard you're attaching to being in tune with "the culture." Stereotyping yourselves with that one.
nikka please. Im not referring to hood if that's what you're implying. Tyler doesn't make music for black folk, never has and is not trying to start without much success.

Most normal black rap fans can hear Gunna's WGFT and catch a vibe. Most normal black rap fans. can not catch a vibe to Tylers music. No matter how performative his music videos are
 

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nikka please. Im not referring to hood if that's what you're implying. Tyler doesn't make music for black folk, never has and is not trying to start without much success.

Most normal black rap fans can hear Gunna's WGFT and catch a vibe. Most normal black rap fans. can not catch a vibe to Tylers music. No matter how performative his music videos are
So why is most of the crowds at Gunna shows white? If it's black folk music? And wdym when you say, "normal Black rap fans?" I'm curious...
 

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So why is most of the crowds at Gunna shows white? If it's black folk music? And wdym when you say, "normal Black rap fans?" I'm curious...
wtf are you talking about? Who says that Gunna doesn't have white fans?

Im talking about regular everyday nikkas. Tell me one Tyla song that you will throw on at kickback, party, bbq or club?

You can name 20+ gunna songs that would get played in those settings
 

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wtf are you talking about? Who says that Gunna doesn't have white fans?

Im talking about regular everyday nikkas. Tell me one Tyla song that you will throw on at kickback, party, bbq or club?

You can name 20+ gunna songs that would get played in those settings
I listen to way more Tyler joints than Gunna. I'm not trying to be around the crowds that mainly play that Gunna shyt. I get Tyler is hit or miss with folks, but to act like Gunna is universally accepted by "regular, everyday nikkas" is retard thought. Like I said, keep stereotyping yourself.
 

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I listen to way more Tyler joints than Gunna. I'm not trying to be around the crowds that mainly play that Gunna shyt. I get Tyler is hit or miss with folks, but to act like Gunna is universally accepted by "regular, everyday nikkas" is retard thought. Like I said, keep stereotyping yourself.
Who doing the stereotyping you or me :mjlol:
 

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Tyler is one of those artists I like but his music as a whole just seems decent but sterile to me.

And it's funny because he's heralded as this innovative and experimental artist but a lot of his music just sounds like modernized Neptunes beats with Gambino tier singing vocals(worse actually) and serviceable raps that are far from whack but don't really give you any stank face moments.

I could totally understand how people can love Tyler as an artist. You can't really go wrong with his post Goblin albums and he has built a strong organic following. His production is very stellar and he does most of his beats justice.

But he's in this weird space where even his best albums don't strike me as top tier as other hip hop classics. Igor is his best album overall and it's not even a real rap album and is more so in the same tier as Love Below, Awaken My Love, and 808s and Heartbreak. CMIYGL is his best rap album but even that's not f*cking with the albums we normally praise as classic rap albums.

So, I feel mixed about him tbh. He's an artist I enjoy but I just never saw him as being particularly distinct in anything other than maybe his aesthetic choices. His production is his greatest quality as an artist and even that isn't that original. When I see people lump him and Kendrick together, I scratch my head. JID is WAY more similar to Kendrick all things considered, both as an artist and an emcee.
 
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