Tyler the Creator has NO hit records and is officially overrated.

[Lucky_Lefty]

He's not trying to resonate with the "culture".

I wish you nikkas would stop using this term because we all know what aesthetic and standard you're attaching to being in tune with "the culture." Stereotyping yourselves with that one.

 

[CrimsonTider]

I wish you nikkas would stop using this term because we all know what aesthetic and standard you're attaching to being in tune with "the culture." Stereotyping yourselves with that one.

nikka please. Im not referring to hood if that's what you're implying. Tyler doesn't make music for black folk, never has and is not trying to start without much success.

Most normal black rap fans can hear Gunna's WGFT and catch a vibe. Most normal black rap fans. can not catch a vibe to Tylers music. No matter how performative his music videos are

 

[Lucky_Lefty]

nikka please. Im not referring to hood if that's what you're implying. Tyler doesn't make music for black folk, never has and is not trying to start without much success.

Most normal black rap fans can hear Gunna's WGFT and catch a vibe. Most normal black rap fans. can not catch a vibe to Tylers music. No matter how performative his music videos are

So why is most of the crowds at Gunna shows white? If it's black folk music? And wdym when you say, "normal Black rap fans?" I'm curious...

 

[CrimsonTider]

So why is most of the crowds at Gunna shows white? If it's black folk music? And wdym when you say, "normal Black rap fans?" I'm curious...

wtf are you talking about? Who says that Gunna doesn't have white fans?

Im talking about regular everyday nikkas. Tell me one Tyla song that you will throw on at kickback, party, bbq or club?

You can name 20+ gunna songs that would get played in those settings

 

[Lucky_Lefty]

wtf are you talking about? Who says that Gunna doesn't have white fans?

Im talking about regular everyday nikkas. Tell me one Tyla song that you will throw on at kickback, party, bbq or club?

You can name 20+ gunna songs that would get played in those settings

I listen to way more Tyler joints than Gunna. I'm not trying to be around the crowds that mainly play that Gunna shyt. I get Tyler is hit or miss with folks, but to act like Gunna is universally accepted by "regular, everyday nikkas" is retard thought. Like I said, keep stereotyping yourself.

 

[Da Jungles]

So many dusty out of touch posts in here

 

[CrimsonTider]

I listen to way more Tyler joints than Gunna. I'm not trying to be around the crowds that mainly play that Gunna shyt. I get Tyler is hit or miss with folks, but to act like Gunna is universally accepted by "regular, everyday nikkas" is retard thought. Like I said, keep stereotyping yourself.

Who doing the stereotyping you or me

 

[Iverson_64]

Tyler is one of those artists I like but his music as a whole just seems decent but sterile to me.

And it's funny because he's heralded as this innovative and experimental artist but a lot of his music just sounds like modernized Neptunes beats with Gambino tier singing vocals(worse actually) and serviceable raps that are far from whack but don't really give you any stank face moments.

I could totally understand how people can love Tyler as an artist. You can't really go wrong with his post Goblin albums and he has built a strong organic following. His production is very stellar and he does most of his beats justice.

But he's in this weird space where even his best albums don't strike me as top tier as other hip hop classics. Igor is his best album overall and it's not even a real rap album and is more so in the same tier as Love Below, Awaken My Love, and 808s and Heartbreak. CMIYGL is his best rap album but even that's not f*cking with the albums we normally praise as classic rap albums.

So, I feel mixed about him tbh. He's an artist I enjoy but I just never saw him as being particularly distinct in anything other than maybe his aesthetic choices. His production is his greatest quality as an artist and even that isn't that original. When I see people lump him and Kendrick together, I scratch my head. JID is WAY more similar to Kendrick all things considered, both as an artist and an emcee.

 

[trillanova]

There's a disconnect on the forum because people assume he's just been the same artist from beginning to end. Flower Boy is when he really leaned into the more serious artist lane and got more popular. A lot of his current fans (who are mainly women, lots of Asians and Hispanics alongside white people) don't even fukk with his old shyt. I'm not absolving Tyler's previous comments or behavior. The self hatred was evident and probably still is on some level of his personal life. But I think this entire blow up is about something beyond race...I think it's about the behavior of zoomers moreso than "white people." The hyper-fixation, the obsession with demanding your favorite celebrity do exactly what you want him/her to do at all times, the performative way they impress each other with cruelty via social media, etc. They're telling him to shut up and drop an artsy album we want to hear lol. It's loser shyt, it's brain rot etc etc.

And I think other people, seeing this blow up, have decided to whip out the 2016 playbook and try to cancel Tyler, which isn't going to work.

I feel like you have a hyper fixation and obsession with black culture and you think listening to hip hop gives you the right to spew opinions blindly that don’t affect you personally. Anytime subjects like this are brought up, you’re always the first on the scene with these middle of the road explanations trying to explain what’s happening racially and culturally. You’re not black so you don’t actually understand the issue no matter how much you try to articulate the situation.

 

[Patrick Kane]

I feel like you have a hyper fixation and obsession with black culture and you think listening to hip hop gives you the right to spew opinions blindly that don’t affect you personally. Anytime subjects like this are brought up, you’re always the first on the scene with these middle of the road explanations trying to explain what’s happening racially and culturally. You’re not black so you don’t actually understand the issue no matter how much you try to articulate the situation.

Legit one of the worst posters on here

Always typing up long ass paragraphs of bullshyt

Dude not even black?

 

[Patrick Kane]

“It’s just jokes”

“Tyler was a wild nikka back then” (in his mid 20s)

“You just don’t get the cultural aesthetic tone of his music”

A nikka that was selling black face merch to his white fans making millions and you nikkas have the nerve to say we don’t “get” this simple nikkas weak ass music

 

[trillanova]

Legit one of the worst posters on here

Always typing up long ass paragraphs of bullshyt

Dude not even black?

He’s white

 

[RajWatts]

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

A dormant Childish Gambino > Tyler

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

I wish you nikkas would stop using this term because we all know what aesthetic and standard you're attaching to being in tune with "the culture." Stereotyping yourselves with that one.

After Drake v Kendrick, the “culture” became synonymous with some very dark and derogatory convos that people are gaslighting people about what they really want to say.