Tyrese goes in on The Rock..update- calls the rock a clown********VIN DIESEL FINALLY RESPONDS

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Bullshyt.

Vin cut the scenes because he alot of influence with F&F. After Tokyo Drift, they essentially gave him the reigns of the franchise.....like a parent label giving an indie a distribution deal. If Vin Diesel or Justin Lin did not like The Rock back in 2009 when they were casting for the roles, they had the juice to not include him in the movie or to heavily discourage his casting.

That's well within the powers of an Executive Producer or a Movie Director. Denying that goes against all logic.

In 2017 though......Fast & Furious is a $1.5 billion dollar movie franchise.......so the movie studio is not going to allow them to fukk up that money train. In the same way, a parent label can force their indie label to do what they want. So now, The Rock, in 2017, does have leverage and influence that he would not have had in 2009 when he was being considered for the role.
If the studio didn't want the rock in the movies, he wouldn't have been in the movies. Maybe Vin put in the good word, but you're delusional if you think he made any kind of final decision regarding that. Executive producers DO NOT have the power to make or veto major casting decisions.
I just checked IMdb and Vin is not even the executive producer. He has a regular production credit along with like 6 other people.

Vin has no real power and he has no reason to have any beef with the Rock. The Rock is the bankable star right now, it is what it is.
 
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If the studio didn't want the rock in the movies, he wouldn't have been in the movies. Maybe Vin put in the good word, but you're delusional if you think he made any kind of final decision regarding that. Executive producers DO NOT have the power to make or veto major casting decisions.

Vin has no real power and he has no reason to have any beef with the Rock. The Rock is the bankable star right now, it is what it is.
nikkas really out here thinking Vin Diesel has Universal by the balls :mjlol:
 

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If the studio didn't want the rock in the movies, he wouldn't have been in the movies. Maybe Vin put in the good word, but you're delusional if you think he made any kind of final decision regarding that. Executive producers DO NOT have the power to make or veto major casting decisions.
I just checked IMdb and Vin is not even the executive producer. He has a regular production credit along with like 6 other people.

Vin has no real power and he has no reason to have any beef with the Rock. The Rock is the bankable star right now, it is what it is.



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If the studio didn't want the rock in the movies, he wouldn't have been in the movies. Maybe Vin put in the good word, but you're delusional if you think he made any kind of final decision regarding that. Executive producers DO NOT have the power to make or veto major casting decisions.
I just checked IMbd and Vin is not even the executive producer. He has a regular production credit along with like 6 other people.

Vin has no real power and he has no reason to have any beef with the Rock. The Rock is the bankable star right now, it is what it is.

Next you gonna say Ice Cube and John Singleton have no say so on casting in their movies.

Shut up nikka.

Justin Lin was the Director.
Neil Moritz was Producer.
Vin Diesel was Producer.
Chris Morgan was the Screenwriter.

If none of them wanted The Rock on the movie, he wouldnt have been on the movie.
 
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:hhh:When did a few hundred thousand dollars split between 3 ppl, not be able to feed anyone???
There's enough money in that hundred of thousands for Tyrese's daughter private school, that Tyrese was crying to another grown man about:dame:


Ever heard of mutiple revenue streams?
So Because Tyrese has a bigger multi million dollar revenue, that means he ought to turn his back on hundreds of thousand dollars worth of revenue?

Also how did the Rock fukk anyone over?
this is buisness...
U keep bringing up Vin diesel Vin diesel, and how Fast and Furious is his baby.... well, the Rock didn't hijack Fast and Furious. He was given a spin off by the Studio... the same Studio that gets first dibs on the billions you're whinning about.
The same Studio that chose to green Light the Rock's spin off movie before another FNF movie.


And Vin Diesel wasn't even in 2 Fast and 2 Furious
 

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Next you gonna say Ice Cube and John Singleton have no say so on casting in their movies.

Shut up nikka.

Justin Lin was the Director.
Neil Moritz was Producer.
Vin Diesel was Producer.
Chris Morgan was the Screenwriter.

If none of them wanted The Rock on the movie, he wouldnt have been on the movie.
But if the studio higher ups wanted the Rock in the movie, then it wouldn't have mattered what nobody in the above list had to say about it. Just like it doesn't matter now what Vin or Tyrese thinks.

Sorry for killing your delusion, but AT BEST Vin made a suggestion or put in the good word for The Rock. To think he has any say or power past that is a ridiculous notion.

Believe that VIN DIESEL has "the reigns" of a multi-billion dollar franchise, brehs. :dead:
 

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If the studio didn't want the rock in the movies, he wouldn't have been in the movies. Maybe Vin put in the good word, but you're delusional if you think he made any kind of final decision regarding that. Executive producers DO NOT have the power to make or veto major casting decisions.
I just checked IMdb and Vin is not even the executive producer. He has a regular production credit along with like 6 other people.

Vin has no real power and he has no reason to have any beef with the Rock. The Rock is the bankable star right now, it is what it is.
Vin's production company makes these films,he absolutely has power and say in the film's.


Executive producers put up money,producers have a much more hands on role behind the scenes.


F. Gary gray got the directing gig for fast 8 based on vin and him having a relationship.

You absolutely have no idea what you're talking about or what the role of a producer on a film is.

Production companies are the driving force behind the decisions behind how a film comes together. You're out of your depth in this conversation .
 

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But if the studio higher ups wanted the Rock in the movie, then it wouldn't have mattered what nobody in the above list had to say about it. Just like it doesn't matter now what Vin or Tyrese thinks.

Sorry for killing your delusion, but AT BEST Vin made a suggestion or put in the good word for The Rock. To think he has any say or power past that is a ridiculous notion.

Believe that VIN DIESEL has "the reigns" of a multi-billion dollar franchise, brehs. :dead:
:mjlol: you're an idiot
 

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Vin's production company makes these films,he absolutely has power and say in the film's.


Executive producers put up money,producers have a much more hands on role behind the scenes.


F. Gary gray got the directing gig for fast 8 based on vin and him having a relationship.

You absolutely have no idea what you're talking about or what the role of a producer on a film is.

Production companies are the driving force behind the decisions behind how a film comes together. You're out of your depth in this conversation .
Everybody in hollywood has a "production company". His "production company " produces these films along with 6 other "production companies".

Again, Vin isn't the executive producer of shyt. He has a regular production credit.

If Vin has so much say, why can't he fix this? Yall claim the series didn't need the rock and vin has all this power, so why can't Vin just give him the boot and carry on as planned. Answer: because he cant.
 

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Fam what he supposed to do? Turn the shyt down? He don’t even know them nikkas like that. He beefing wit the wrong muthafukka. Take that shyt up wit the studios n shyt. Don’t get mad at the Rock for taking an opportunity. He don’t owe them anything. ESPECIALLY Tyrese. Look how that fukkboi did his own friends with the TGT shyt. All over Money. Money that he didn’t even deserve. He felt he should get paid more than the other members but in reality Ginuwine was the most musically successful artists out of the 3 of them. And Tyrese threw him under the bus first.
i don't know what he SUPPOSED to do... i been saying the same thing from jump in this thread. which is, people have the story all fukked up. i just been trying to explain what it is

but finally tyrese did it himself.. which is what he could of done, off top, instead of being homotional.. as for the rock, what he chooses to do is on him. i can see why he'd do it.. but i can see how other people would be mad if they felt the movies was honoring their dead friend and you take it and run with it

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