U.S. Black farmers lost $326 bln worth of land in 20th century

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As bad as that is, we need to make sure the home continent isn't taken over like that. We know the game they play.

They started by stealing land from the Natives and act like it wasn't what it was.
 

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Something something hard work :troll:

something something wasting opportunities :troll:
 

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As bad as that is, we need to make sure the home continent isn't taken over like that. We know the game they play.

They started by stealing land from the Natives and act like it wasn't what it was.




How is that any concern to Black Americans :dahell:



Why did you even bring that up in a thread about our ancestors who had their land stolen :dahell:
 

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How is that any concern to Black Americans :dahell:



Why did you even bring that up in a thread about our ancestors who had their land stolen :dahell:


How is that not a concern to black americans?

Black americans will eventually be back in the original homeland of our ancestors.
 

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How is that not a concern to black americans?

Black americans will eventually be back in the original homeland of our ancestors.



Okay breh I see you are a pan africanist nothing wrong with that but I think we should let Africans control their own lands.
 

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Okay breh I see you are a pan africanist nothing wrong with that but I think we should let Africans control their own lands.


I'm not calling for black americans to go over and take over. I'm saying people are already making the move back. It's going to get worse over here and you're going to see more and more people doing it.
 

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I'm not calling for black americans to go over and take over. I'm saying people are already making the move back. It's going to get worse over here and you're going to see more and more people doing it.


When reparations comes we are better off buying land in places like Mississippi and Louisiana
 

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I do not think they got any money from that
Your right


The U.S. Department of Justice has opted not to file an appeal in federal court over an order blocking reparations for Black farmers and farmers of color. The reparations program was built into President Joe Biden’s $1.9 trillion coronavirus stimulus bill to counter generations of systemic racism against Black farmers.

Black farmers have been suing the federal government for decades over claims of continuing discrimination in Department of Agriculture programs. Simultaneously, their numbers have been dwindling. In 1920, the USDA counted 925,708 Black farmers, or about 14 percent of all farmers at the time. By 2017, there were 45,508 Black farmers — roughly 1.3 percent of all 3.4 million U.S. farmers, according to a recent USDA Census of Agriculture.


Aug. 23 was the deadline for the DOJ to file an appeal, 60 days after federal judges ruled that the $4 billion reparations program, which would forgive the debts of exclusively non-white farmers, was unconstitutional and hence could not be implemented, Tennesse Star reported.

A U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) spokesperson confirmed that the DOJ did not plan to move through the federal court system at this time. Instead, it plans to defend the policy within the trial court level against plaintiffs who are directly suing the government over what they allege to be a discriminatory and anti-white policy, according to the USDA.

Currently, there are 12 lawsuits filed against the government regarding the reparations policy.


“The United States government will continue to fight these lawsuits in the district courts in the weeks and months ahead,” a USDA spokesperson told Politico, “because providing debt relief is an important component of USDA’s broader commitment to taking bold, historic action to rout out generations of systemic racism.”

According to one legal expert, the DOJ’s forgoing the appeal and preferring to move ahead with district court litigation “might be driven in part by a desire not to trigger a law that requires the Justice Department to formally notify Congress whenever the department chooses not to defend a statute,” Politico reported.

“I think they’re trying to carve out this space,” said Neal Devins, a professor of law and government at William & Mary Law School. “It’s one thing to have Obama writing Congress not to defend the Defense of Marriage Act, but Biden writing Congress not to defend this statute doesn’t work quite as well.”

Black farmers who support the race-based policy voiced their frustration with the Biden administration’s decision to not appeal the rulings.

John Boyd, president of the National Black Farmers Association, told the Tennessee Star he “was sure hoping they would appeal,” and described the decision not to appeal as “a formula for failure.”
 

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A Biden administration effort to provide debt relief to farmers of color as part of the American Rescue Plan Act, framed as repair for past USDA discrimination, is currently stalled in court after white farmers argued it was discriminatory.
I wish this could legally be enshrined as an established practice in the constitution. You cannot rectify the past by just stopping assaulting/robbing somebody. You must pay restitution to make the aggrieved party whole again. The concept of restitution should be an amendment.




Republicans are playing obtuse by making it impossible to pay black people restitution for all sorts of harm that has been dished out. I think the only real fix would be a new amendment so that racists in courts or congress cannot keep playing this game. This concept of restitution needs to be treated as legitimately as the 14th amendment currently is. Imagine if the 14th amendment was not explicitly stated in the constitution in the 1800s, but was instead instituted as a law from congress. If such were the case, then republicans would still be giving morally dubious arguments in 2022 against equal protection/anti-enslavement. This is the awkward position pro-black or even ordinary social justice programs face today.


This may be slightly off topic, but this is also the reason i think reparations may need to be an outright constitutional amendment to prevent these same disingenuous arguments from negating future gains by black people. And yes i am fully aware of how difficult it is to get a new amendment, but without such a protection, black people will have to play an eternal back-and-forth game with the old confederate states about our interests in courts(and congressional sessions).



sorry if i went on a bit of a tangent. Brevity is not my strong suit:mjcry:
 
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I wish this could legally be enshrined as an established practice in the constitution. You cannot rectify the past by just stopping assaulting/robbing somebody. You must pay restitution to make the aggrieved party whole again. The concept of restitution should be an amendment.


Republicans are playing obtuse by making it impossible to pay black people restitution for all sorts of harm that has been dished out. I think the only real fix would be a new amendment so that racists in courts or congress cannot keep playing this game. This concept of restitution needs to be treated as legitimately as the 14th amendment currently is. Imagine if the 14th amendment was not explicitly stated in the constitution in the 1800s, but was instead instituted as a law from congress. If such were the case, then republicans would still be giving morally dubious arguments in 2022 against equal protection/anti-enslavement. This is the awkward position pro-black or even ordinary social justice programs face today.


This may be slightly off topic, but this is also the reason i think repetitions may need to be an outright constitutional amendment to prevent these same disingenuous arguments. And yes i am fully aware of how difficult it is to get a new amendment, but without such a protection, black people will have to play an eternal back-and-forth game with the old confederate states about our interests.



sorry if i went on a bit of a tangent. Brevity is not my strong suit:mjcry:
You have to be retarded if you think the US political system will ever give black people the substantial reparations we are already lawfully owed :mjlol:
 

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holy shyt :gucci:

america has stayed raping black folks for centuries. the fact that revenge isn't front and center of black people's minds is wild
 
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