U.S. Black farmers lost $326 bln worth of land in 20th century

[NoGutsNoGLory]

I'm not FBA - but alot of brothers told me how their ancestors lost alot of land due to armed robberies and murders.

Thats an act of war.

Nah worse, they lost em to banksters.

 

[CopiousX]

You have to be retarded if you think the US political system will ever give black people the substantial reparations we are already lawfully owed

You couldve said the same exact thing about both the ending of slavery back in 1864 or the end of segregation in 1964. It's certainly possible.


I personally dont think they will agree to the full owed amount of X-trillion dollars, but i do think they can be pressured into a conceding reasonable percentage of it. Especially if the terms were favorable to them. Very similar to how native Americans were never given full reparations but were given a noticeable portion of what was owed to them. As unfortunate and disheartening as it sounds, i think black people would have to play the role of a shrewd debt collector who does not pursue the full amount of a 6.5yr debt on the precipice of expungement; but instead seeks a portion of it in hopes of securing anything at all from a belligerent or financially demoralized debtor.

 

[Justise M]

The farming industry should be run by our people based on the history of this country. It's only right

 

[King]

You couldve said the same exact thing about both the ending of slavery back in 1864 or the end of segregation in 1964. It's certainly possible.


I personally dont think they will agree to the full owed amount of X-trillion dollars, but i do think they can be pressured into a conceding reasonable percentage of it. Especially if the terms were favorable to them. Very similar to how native Americans were never given full reparations but were given a noticeable portion of what was owed to them. As unfortunate and disheartening as it sounds, i think black people would have to play the role of a shrewd debt collector who does not pursue the full amount of a 6.5yr debt on the precipice of expungement; but instead seeks a portion of it in hopes of securing anything at all from a belligerent or financially demoralized debtor.

Except those two events were concessions with ulterior motives that ultimately fukked over black people in the process, look up critical race theory.

Perhaps I should have qualified what I mean by “substantial”, I mean without concession and in full equitable quantity.

 

[Chrishaune]

The farming industry should be run by our people based on the history of this country. It's only right

We need to at least run our own farming industry. Genetic modification is too prevalent to trust what these people are doing with farming today. I believe black people would generally stick to keeping everything natural. We're not in the lab trying to mix bat genetics with rice.

 

[CopiousX]

We need to at least run our own farming industry. Genetic modification is too prevalent to trust what these people are doing with farming today. I believe black people would generally stick to keeping everything natural.

Be real, do we have the consumer base to support this?


I recall my folks getting on a health kick towards the end of my high school career. My mother was making 75k and my father was pulling 40k. They had the typical obligations of a black family (helping worse off relatives, consumer debt, housing expenses, medical bills, retirement saving, student loans, etc) They tried their damn hardest to go full organic and non-GMO and i recall it literally breaking their budget for a family of five. They went back to traditional food and reasonable food bills in less than 6mos because the added expenses made no sense.



Keep in mind that my black family, with a combined household income of $100,000+ , was doing significantly better than the avg black family in America (only $45k per year) and they couldn't rationalize the all natural, non-gmo route. Furthermore, they did the cheapest version of the natural food route by using established white farms, distribution networks, and suppliers; so just take a moment to think of the costs of doing the same thing with brand new supply lines from black farmers without any of the economy of scale of a whole foods or a Trader Joes.

 

[Chrishaune]

Be real, do we have the consumer base to support this?


I recall my folks getting on a health kick towards the end of my high school career. My mother was making 75k and my father was pulling 40k. They had the typical obligations of a black family (helping worse off relatives, consumer debt, housing expenses, medical bills, retirement saving, student loans, etc) They tried their damn hardest to go full organic and non-GMO and i recall it literally breaking their budget for a family of five. They went back to traditional food and reasonable food bills in less than 6mos because the added expenses made no sense.



Keep in mind that my black family, with a combined household income of $100,000+ , was doing significantly better than the avg black family in America (only $45k per year) and they couldn't rationalize the all natural, non-gmo route. Furthermore, they did the cheapest version of the natural food route by using established white farms, distribution networks, and suppliers; so just take a moment to think of the costs of doing the same thing with brand new supply lines from black farmers without any of the economy of scale of a whole foods or a Trader Joes.

If people actually worked together. But do I think black people in America will work together? That's an entirely different question, which is why I don't think it works without a connection back to the home continent.

My whole point.

We have the brainpower and the manpower to produce clean water, electricity, build our own homes, and grow our own food. Trying to live in a euro-centric economy is not the business for us. They create the advantages for themselves and use them at every turn. They are trying to change the current system to be advantageous to them as we speak and black people are still asleep.

 

[Rekkapryde]

They stole an entire continent from the Natives….it’s what they do

 

[BlackJesus]

oh my god......

 

[CopiousX]

If people actually worked together. But do I think black people in America will work together? That's an entirely different question, which is why I don't think it works without a connection back to the home continent.

My whole point.

We have the brainpower and the manpower to produce clean water, electricity, build our own homes, and grow our own food. Trying to live in a euro-centric economy is not the business for us. They create the advantages for themselves and use them at every turn. They are trying to change the current system to be advantageous to them as we speak and black people are still asleep.

I was speaking strictly from a economic stand point, so i cant speak for the social cohesion aspect. You are right that the infrastructure could definitely be made.

I also think you might be on to something by including external black populations in the supply chain. You mentioned africa and i think even including the black Caribbean in the supply chain is feasible. It would reduce many of the financial costs of growing food, but i worry it may end up ignoring the domestic black farmers who we were trying to help in the first place. Are you prepared for that tradeoff?

 

[BlackJesus]

If people actually worked together. But do I think black people in America will work together? That's an entirely different question, which is why I don't think it works without a connection back to the home continent.

My whole point.

We have the brainpower and the manpower to produce clean water, electricity, build our own homes, and grow our own food. Trying to live in a euro-centric economy is not the business for us. They create the advantages for themselves and use them at every turn. They are trying to change the current system to be advantageous to them as we speak and black people are still asleep.

Notice how asians and mexicans have little nested communities where they import and sell goods from their home countries. We need to establish an import-export economy with Africa. It's win-win and would probably piss whites off.

Can't think of a better way for us to win.

 

[BlackJesus]

A Biden administration effort to provide debt relief to farmers of color as part of the American Rescue Plan Act, framed as repair for past USDA discrimination, is currently stalled in court after white farmers argued it was discriminatory.

These fakkits are really playing hardball. We need to get smart. Fast

 

[Bunchy Carter]

These fakkits are really playing hardball. We need to get smart. Fast

That's bullshyt, because the Biden administration are giving Asians, Ukrainians money, they have power to just give the Black farmers the money.

They always act like their hands are tied when it's time to give us our money.

Oh my god I was going to give you the money, but these White farmers filed a lawuit, oh I'm so powerless.

 

[Chrishaune]

I was speaking strictly from a economic stand point, so i cant speak for the social cohesion aspect. You are right that the infrastructure could definitely be made.

I also think you might be on to something by including external black populations in the supply chain. You mentioned africa and i think even including the black Caribbean in the supply chain is feasible. It would reduce many of the financial costs of growing food, but i worry it may end up ignoring the domestic black farmers who we were trying to help in the first place. Are you prepared for that tradeoff?

I just want people to start to understand that there's a different way to go about things. Mixing cultures usually ends up in the situation we see now. You have a culture that developed a system to their advantage and have worked to keep it that way and are currently working to expand that to cover the whole world. Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos are not sending satellites up in space to help everybody connect to the internet. That's a smoke screen. These tech companies are not laying down underwater fiber optic cables to every continent for no reason. The euro controlled West is not coming together right now to save the planet like they want you to believe and lie to your face everyday. All of this is happening to get the world connected and under more of their control. They didn't pass a bill to put kill switches in every new vehicle made for nothing. There is no freedom in this system they are creating. If you don't do what they say and continue to try and live in their system they are going to try to cut you off and/or get rid of you.

Programmable money (digital currency) - What happens when your digital currency card gets declined because they cut you off from your money? Nobody around you is going to think they are doing you wrong, they will think you did something wrong.

 

[BlackJesus]

That's bullshyt, because the Biden administration are giving Asians, Ukrainians money, they have power to just give the Black farmers the money.

They always act like their hands are tied when it's time to give us our money.

Oh my god I was going to give you the money, but these White farmers filed a lawuit, oh I'm so powerless.

We should file a discrimination lawsuit against the asians and Ukrainians then. If we don't get our money, nobody else can