U.S. Fighter Jets Scrambled to Intercept Russian Warplanes Near Alaska

[Adeptus Astartes]

You’re saying the same exact thing but wording it differently

Russia doesn’t have to fight against NATO troops to be fighting against NATO when all of the intelligence, training, and weapons are coming from NATO. This should be common sense.

Giving aid =/= boots on the ground, and you know it. No NATO nation is actively fighting, not even providing blockades or no fly zones.

Contrarianism is a drug

 

[Robbie3000]

When Sadam got toppled?

The person who responded to OP, tried to loosely use examples of the American military “losing” as proof that America doesn’t have the strongest military in the world. When your main export is war and defense, you’re gonna have more examples “remember when America didn’t complete mission X” than any other nation on earth just numerically. Especially if you have more overseas bases than any other country on earth. Why has the rest of the globe just allowed the US to just hoe them and build bases just about wherever? If America is the evil colonialist super power that ppl think it is…then well…what they waiting for?

We are saying all the trillions wasted on the war machine has not translated to Ws in war. Actually the U.S. has been handed Ls by completely unmatched foes.

 

[that guy]

When Sadam got toppled?

The person who responded to OP, tried to loosely use examples of the American military “losing” as proof that America doesn’t have the strongest military in the world. When your main export is war and defense, you’re gonna have more examples “remember when America didn’t complete mission X” than any other nation on earth just numerically. Especially if you have more overseas bases than any other country on earth. Why has the rest of the globe just allowed the US to just hoe them and build bases just about wherever? If America is the evil colonialist super power that ppl think it is…then well…what they waiting for?

Terrible argument. When you spend $1 trillion annually and have over 800 military bases all over the planet you should not be 0/6 in your last 6 military conflicts.

You really think America ISNT an evil colonialist superpower?

 

[that guy]

Giving aid =/= boots on the ground, and you know it. No NATO nation is actively fighting, not even providing blockades or no fly zones.

Contrarianism is a drug

You’re literally admitting NATO is aiding the Ukraine while saying Russia is not fighting against NATO but calling someone else a contrarian

 

[Mister Terrific]

When Sadam got toppled?

The person who responded to OP, tried to loosely use examples of the American military “losing” as proof that America doesn’t have the strongest military in the world. When your main export is war and defense, you’re gonna have more examples “remember when America didn’t complete mission X” than any other nation on earth just numerically. Especially if you have more overseas bases than any other country on earth. Why has the rest of the globe just allowed the US to just hoe them and build bases just about wherever? If America is the evil colonialist super power that ppl think it is…then well…what they waiting for?

He thinks we lost Korea and Iraq when we have military bases in both
and Korea is our closest military ally in the region


These people don’t live in any functional reality.

 

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Brits are the best fighters

 

[Mister Terrific]

I wouldn’t say hard defences e.g military, more soft defence e.g what will NATO nations say or how will they react, testing their togetherness. Remember Lavrov is /was in the US this week

Russia know flying over will do nothing unless they are reconnaissance/EW planes. They been doing the same shyt for the past 15 years.

It was also international air space

The Russian aircraft remained in international airspace and did not enter U.S. or Canadian sovereign airspace, NORAD said.

The Alaskan Air Defense Identification Zone is an area of international airspace that requires the ready identification of all aircraft for national security purposes, NORAD said.


This is common. Taiwan and China do it all the time because both define their airspace differently.

 

[that guy]

We are saying all the trillions wasted on the war machine has not translated to Ws in war. Actually the U.S. has been handed Ls by completely unmatched foes.

Exactly. From 2021 military spending increased from $800 billion to $1 trillion. We paid $20 to replace the taliban with the taliban and they are still regurgitating US pro-military propaganda. The US is the most expensive war tribe.

 

[Adeptus Astartes]

You’re literally admitting NATO is aiding the Ukraine while saying Russia is not fighting against NATO but calling someone else a contrarian

Russia is not fighting NATO, they are fighting Ukraine. If article 5 is invoked, then they would be fighting NATO.

 

[Mister Terrific]

Giving aid =/= boots on the ground, and you know it. No NATO nation is actively fighting, not even providing blockades or no fly zones.

Contrarianism is a drug

This is how I know dude is an Orc cac or hangs out in Orc cac spaces.

It’s a common cope from Russian and Nazi accounts that they are losing because they are fighting all of NATO.

Their second cope is that drone warfare is some super weapon that any country would suffer millions of casualties to just like Russia


When in reality the US Airforce wouldve establish air superiority over Ukraine within weeks. Russia never did which is quite pathetic given the fact Ukraine didn’t have a military till like 10 years ago.

 

[Mister Terrific]

Exactly. From 2021 military spending increased from $800 billion to $1 trillion. We paid $20 to replace the taliban with the taliban and they are still regurgitating US pro-military propaganda. The US is the most expensive war tribe.

In January 2023, the median salary was 43,500 rubles or $630 per month. In July 2023 was 53,571 rubles ($591.90) per month.[4] On June 16, 2023, Deputy Prime Minister of the Russian Federation Tatyana Golikova, during a speech at the session of the St. Petersburg International Economic Forum (SPIEF-23), reported that about 6 million employed Russians receive salaries below the minimum wage (minimum wage) (below 16,242 rubles or $195.60 per month) and about 12 million Russians work without employment contracts, or contracts of a civil nature (GPH), or the status of self-employed[5]As of April 2023, about half of Russianscomplain about too low wages and want to get twice as much. Analysts of HeadHunter came to such conclusions. In general, 71% of the country's inhabitants are dissatisfied with their earnings. Only a quarter (26%) of the working population of the Russian Federation is satisfied with the size of the monthly pay [1]. According to VTsIOM polls in 2023, Russians believe that the growth of poverty in Russia (20 million materially, financially poor people in Russia) is due to the unfair distribution of resources, the liquidation of enterprises and social inequality.[6] In Russia, wages are about 39% of GDP, while in most European countries this figure is above 50%.[7]

In recent years, it was believed that low wages are a competitive advantage of the Russian economy, since it is beneficial for doing business, and poverty can be "cured" by payments to vulnerable citizens. But the budget will spend 1.6 trillion rubles only on a single benefit in 2024. "This support measure is not cheap for the state. If the number of recipients of benefits continues to grow, a policy where benefits are the main tool for fighting poverty will become an additional risk to budgetstability," Vice-Rector of the Higher School of Economics Lilia Ovcharova warned.[8]

List of Russian federal subjects by average wage - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Imagine fighting a war losing a million people and making less than $600 a month in a country that should print money because of natural resources

 

[Biscayne]

Whats revisionist about America losing in Afghanistan? I don’t think you understand what that word means.

Saying Russia isn’t fighting all of NATO is like saying HAMAS isn’t fighting the United States.

Some you clearly never heard of a proxy war.

We fund Israel. We’re not directly fighting Hamas. Your original point was stupid, because you presented it as “Russia is beating all of nato!!!” to present the narrative, that Americas military might is overrated.

 

[that guy]

Russia is not fighting NATO, they are fighting Ukraine. If article 5 is invoked, then they would be fighting NATO.

If NATO is pooling their resources together to provide the vast majority of all military intelligence and equipment being used in the Ukraine, then Russia is fighting against NATO. There is no article 5 and the Ukraine isn’t even a NATO member.

 

[Biscayne]

Terrible argument. When you spend $1 trillion annually and have over 800 military bases all over the planet you should not be 0/6 in your last 6 military conflicts.

You really think America ISNT an evil colonialist superpower?

How are you 0/6 and yet are still able to occupy so many nations? America “lost” Korea, yet South Korea still exist and NK just pouts from the DMZ. America “lost”(probably the most legitimate loss) Vietnam because America finally decided to pull out. How is America 0 in 6?


And yes, how are you simultaneously the preeminent colonial super power and a yet overrated militarily? That don’t add up.

 

[that guy]

We fund Israel. We’re not directly fighting Hamas. Your original point was stupid, because you presented it as “Russia is beating all of nato!!!” to present the narrative, that Americas military might is overrated.

We are fighting Hamas using Israel as a proxy state. So yes, hamas is fighting against the US.

If my point was stupid, you would have quoted me directly instead of making up one out of desperation.

The narrative that Americas military is overrated was based on the massive spending yet track record of losses, it has nothing to do with Russia and NATO. Your parents must be related