U.S. Military Preparing Weeks-Long War Against Iran

Will there be a war?


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Gritsngravy

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I disagree. If you look at things objectively the vast majority of people in the US with any real political or financial power are white and they're well-represented in every industry, and have far more wealth than other groups. So I just don't buy that the issue is really economic.

IMO, it's more that white Americans are just socialized to have contempt for minorities and feel that minorities are the cause of most of their problems. There's an entire right-wing media ecosystem dedicated to telling them that.
The west, which includes all these European countries, sense that they losing power and can’t bully countries anymore

A independent strong Union of African countries scares these European countries to death, I don’t think them Asian countries gon fukk with them like they think they is

So really I would argue everything is a in essence caused by white people losing
 

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Now go down the list of American atrocities and convince me they are somehow not equivalent or comparable.

I mean many states will murder and rape other countries. Very few do it to their own women.


 

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The west, which includes all these European countries, sense that they losing power and can’t bully countries anymore

A independent strong Union of African countries scares these European countries to death, I don’t think them Asian countries gon fukk with them like they think they is

So really I would argue everything is a in essence caused by white people losing
Factually damn near every strife in the world can possibly be traced to cac interests and interference.......
 

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I mean many states will murder and rape other countries. Very few do it to their own women.


Ice is raping people every day in custody. Federal authorities are and have been actively participating in human trafficking. All them kids that were separated from their parents at the border lots of them are still missing.........the president of the fukking us more than likely was a direct partner in international rape pedophilia and human trafficking.......come on now breh.......now you being unreasonable........
 

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Ice is raping people every day in custody. Federal authorities are and have been actively participating in human trafficking. All them kids that were separated from their parents at the border lots of them are still missing.........the president of the fukking us more than likely was a direct partner in international rape pedophilia and human trafficking.......come on now breh.......now you being unreasonable........
Just take 5 minutes and read through the documentation by two leading human rights investigative bodies then get back to me on Iran being just like America.
 

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Just take 5 minutes and read through the documentation by two leading human rights investigative bodies then get back to me on Iran being just like America.
I read through the documentation that is pertinent to me and my daily struggle and uts telling me america aint it for black folks...........although the reading is a little lite and doesn't give enough detail.......probably to make sure not to evoke the guturral reaction needed to shake some people off of talking points they cling to........I dont know what your attachment is to your particular talking points, but I know better and am not arrogant enough to try and move you off them.......
 

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Your information is incomplete. China and Russia are doing a tad bit more than "diplomatic support".

Chinese and Russians have quietly, without committing any boots on the ground, made any sort of military campaign against Iran pretty much unviable. This is their supply lines, trade network, Belt and Road Initiative hanging in the balance so they're doing what's necessary, but no more.

The January insurrection by Baluchi, Kurdish and MEK groups (trained, armed and directed by Mossad and CIA), was subdued in large part thanks to Russian and Chinese tech to disrupt Starlink communcations and their ability to coordinate their violent activities. Turkish intelligence also assisted Iran in identifying and giving the movements of these groups.

After January, and the 12-Day war of June 2025, it has become clear to Iran (and to Russia and China) that the United States of Israel are now fully intent on bringing down the Iranian regime. They now want to see through that Iran goes the way of Iraq, Libya etc and is balkanized.

Incidentally, whatever reformist movement existed in Iran prior to these developments, and there has indeed been reformist presidents like Khatami who were seeking to normalize relations with the West, that's all dead and buried at this point. Nobody has any illusions about anything else than their adversaries wanting to reduce the country to rubble, and so there's been a rallying to support the current regime.

The 12 day war Iran used a lot of home grown anti air defense systems. Since then they've accepted and brought in Russian integrated air defense systems and Chinese BeiDou real-time satellite targeting, accurate to 2 meters, long range radar, intelligence, surveillance and guidance systems, air defense systems, and materials and components for missile production. Russia and China have ramped up their support significantly.

This is game-changing. You have to assume that the carrier groups are now viable targets. Add to that, they may even have reliable radar profiles of the B2 Spirit. Also, they can detect launches at 700 km range. For missiles going 1000 km/h that gives them about half an hour to react.

This has been reported on by Alastair Crooke, as well as Max Blumenthal of The Grayzone.

Offensively, of course they still have the capability to overwhelm missile defense systems in Israel and American bases, and then strike at specific targets with high accuracy, and they were hitting Israel hard enough for them to sue for a cease-fire.

Israeli news media (which has always been more honest and thus more informative than Western news media) has reported on what Bibi came to convey to Trump in their latest meeting. Essentially Israel has moved on from the nuclear issue. They are now demanding that the US takes out Iranian missile capabilities, and if there's to be any kind of negotiated settlement, the Iranians have to give up their missile arsenal.

Their missile capability is completely decentralized. Meaning they can operate independently over a vast area, as it's a big country. Decapitation strikes won't suffice to neutralize the threat. A prolonged shooting war with Iran is a disaster in the making for the US of I belligerents. They don't need nukes, that's obsolete. The June war showed they already got their deterrent, and now they've been augmented further by their friends.

It would be an utterly foolish move to go to war, but anything's possible when you got pedo cannibals calling the shots.

I was dismissive. I do not discount Iran's capabilities due to the investments of China and Russia. Iran has been preparing for war since 1979 and had to fight an 8-year war with Iraq in the 80s already.

The carrier groups are sitting ducks of course. And if the regime is going to go down, they will take the entire Gulf with them. Iran is not Iraq in 1990 or 2003.

And yes, the US can destroy infrastructure and kill civilians in Iran - basically commit terrorism. It will be of little use militarily and will not stop Iran from using its missiles to bomb all those bases in the Gulf.
 

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Not sure what that is.

Beware the Ides of March" was uttered by a soothsayer (a fortune teller) to Julius Caesar, warning him of his impending assassination in William Shakespeare's play Julius Caesar (Act 1, Scene 2). The line, which foreshadows Caesar's death on March 15.
 

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I was dismissive. I do not discount Iran's capabilities due to the investments of China and Russia. Iran has been preparing for war since 1979 and had to fight an 8-year war with Iraq in the 80s already.

The carrier groups are sitting ducks of course. And if the regime is going to go down, they will take the entire Gulf with them. Iran is not Iraq in 1990 or 2003.

And yes, the US can destroy infrastructure and kill civilians in Iran - basically commit terrorism. It will be of little use militarily and will not stop Iran from using its missiles to bomb all those bases in the Gulf.
Any missile site, A2AD site will be destroyed shortly after launch if not before. The US and Israel will deliberately find those sites (they’ve already found them) and use EW to scramble the targeting parameters and either guided missles or air strikes to destroy them. Same thing happened to Iraq. SCUD launchers were prioritized and destroyed during the opening phases of the war

Edit: Carrier groups are not “sitting ducks” :unimpressed:

United States Carrier Strike Group

1. Aircraft Carrier (Flagship)

Primary Role: Air power projection


Abilities:
  • Launches and recovers fighter jets, electronic warfare aircraft, early warning planes, and helicopters
  • Conducts air superiority, strike missions, reconnaissance, and close air support
  • Acts as command center for the strike group
  • Nuclear-powered (virtually unlimited range)
2. Guided Missile Cruisers

Primary Role: Air defense commander
  • Equipped with Aegis Combat System
  • Launches Tomahawk cruise missiles (land attack)
  • Provides ballistic missile defense
  • Anti-air, anti-ship, anti-submarine warfare
3. Guided Missile Destroyers

Primary Role: Multi-mission escort
  • Air and missile defense
  • Anti-submarine warfare (sonar + helicopters)
  • Surface warfare (anti-ship missiles)
  • Tomahawk land-attack capability
4. Attack Submarine

Primary Role: Undersea dominance

Abilities:
  • Hunts enemy submarines and ships
  • Launches Tomahawk cruise missiles
  • Intelligence gathering
  • Covert insertion of special forces
5. Supply Ship (Combat Logistics)

Primary Role: Sustainment

Abilities:
  • Refuels ships at sea
  • Replenishes ammunition and supplies
  • Extends operational range without returning to port
 
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Any missile site, A2AD site will be destroyed shortly after launch if not before. The US and Israel will deliberately find those sites (they’ve already found them) and use EW to scramble the targeting parameters and either guided missles or air strikes to destroy them. Same thing happened to Iraq. SCUD launchers were prioritized and destroyed during the opening phases of the war

Edit: Carrier groups are not “sitting ducks” :unimpressed:

United States Carrier Strike Group

1. Aircraft Carrier (Flagship)

Primary Role: Air power projection


Abilities:
  • Launches and recovers fighter jets, electronic warfare aircraft, early warning planes, and helicopters
  • Conducts air superiority, strike missions, reconnaissance, and close air support
  • Acts as command center for the strike group
  • Nuclear-powered (virtually unlimited range)
2. Guided Missile Cruisers

Primary Role: Air defense commander
  • Equipped with Aegis Combat System
  • Launches Tomahawk cruise missiles (land attack)
  • Provides ballistic missile defense
  • Anti-air, anti-ship, anti-submarine warfare
3. Guided Missile Destroyers

Primary Role: Multi-mission escort
  • Air and missile defense
  • Anti-submarine warfare (sonar + helicopters)
  • Surface warfare (anti-ship missiles)
  • Tomahawk land-attack capability
4. Attack Submarine

Primary Role: Undersea dominance

Abilities:
  • Hunts enemy submarines and ships
  • Launches Tomahawk cruise missiles
  • Intelligence gathering
  • Covert insertion of special forces
5. Supply Ship (Combat Logistics)

Primary Role: Sustainment

Abilities:
  • Refuels ships at sea
  • Replenishes ammunition and supplies
  • Extends operational range without returning to port

They've found some of them.

But they don't know where ALL of them are. Iran is a huge country and mountains and underground bases are all over the place.

Seymour Hersh:


Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu visited Washington last Wednesday, February 11, unaccompanied by his wife Sara—a sign, I have been told, of urgency—for a hurried meeting at the White House with Donald Trump.

Netanyahu, who has led Israel’s war on Gaza, arrived with a citation from Genesis 18-19 in hand: the meaning was that he, like God, would hold people accountable for sin—primarily the Ayatollah Ali Khameini of Iran—but would also show grace and mercy.

One of the messages that emerged in my subsequent reporting on the meeting is that the Israelis believe that the Iranians, whose three main nuclear facilities were bombed by US B-2 bombers last June, smuggled before the attack as much as 440 kilograms of partially enriched uranium—to 60 percent—into one of the myriad of tunnels known to exist under the Isfahan nuclear research center.

The tunnels are said by the Israelis to be like the tentacles of an octopus in their twists and turns. If the tunnels were able to shield the uranium, it would take just a few days with the right centrifuges to cycle up to 90-plus enrichment, enough to power an atomic bomb. I was not told the source of the Israelis’ information, but I was told that, if deemed necessary, there are plans afoot for the Sayerat Matkal, Israel’s version of America’s Seal Team 6, to penetrate the tunnel system to verify the information that Netanyahu and others in the increasingly religious Israeli military leadership desperately want to verify.

Trump responded to the Israelis’ information by sending the US fleet to the Persian Gulf, the eastern Mediterranean and the Red and Arabian seas, and he declared that regime change in Iran is “the best thing that could happen.” The New York Times has reported that “Trump has the option to take military action against Iran as soon as this weekend,” according to administration officials. The United States and Israel are or soon will be attempting to make contacts among the leadership of the Iranian Army. Its forces will be needed to overthrow the religious regime, with its loyal Revolutionary Guards. The country is still reeling from the Ayatollah’s murderous response to recent protests. It’s still not known just how many thousands of dissenters, many of them young, were killed by police and the military.

What Trump will do next in the Middle East is hard to predict. I have been told that Netanyahu wants the US to join him in “a massive crippling attack across a broad front” in Iran. His hope is to play “a major role in shaping US planning and execution of any US next step in Iran” and “to eliminate Iran as a potential threat forever.”

The Israeli prime minister also believes that Trump can be persuaded to give Israel what it wants because all he seems to focus on is Iran’s nuclear capability. The folly is that belief, one American official explained, because the US intelligence community has concluded that Iran “does not retain any viable nuclear attack capability.”

Another threat not mentioned between Trump and Netanyahu is Iran’s ballistic missile arsenal. It was one of the major targets of the US-Israeli bombing attack last June. It was wiped out last year but is currently being rebuilt at a rapid rate.

During the war last summer Iran’s missiles had less than a ten percent chance of getting through Israel’s Iron Dome and other air defenses. Iran was able to fire off about 550 missiles at Israeli targets during the war, but the forty-five that got through, even with minimal payloads, caused enormous damage in Tel Aviv and terrified the population. Israel has watched since then as Iran concentrated on manufacturing more and larger missiles

I was told that the upgraded missiles now being manufactured at plants throughout Iran will have enough range to hit targets in Southeastern Europe, where there are little or no air defenses.

The Israeli veteran said that if Netanyahu carries out his current plan to stage an attack in late spring on Iran, with Trump’s support, Israel will also have to initiate yet another preemptive attack on Hezbollah in Lebanon.

What is coming next, if the president and Netanyahu get their way, as they have had since Trump began his second term, will be more hell on earth.
 
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