UFC Fighter Mike Perry Gets at Michael Jai White for VladTV Interview on Kimbo

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You act like a high school state win supposed to get clout when all it got him was a juco scholarship. Not a D1 scholarship but juco. I got wrestling offers for D1 and I didn't have to win state to do it.
now you're moving the goalpost. you said dudes who have never competed in their lives walk into mma at the highest levels and become champs and top contenders. when in fact the dude you named has YEARS of experience doing arguably the most important part of mma:skip: youre bringing up clout and all this nonsense. d1 d2 it doesnt matter they beat each other all the time.
 

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yall always jump into sports talk and fan fiction, especially with MMA.
nikkas catch a bad one... none of that shyt matters when you fight someone thats strength is your weakness
You can tell dudes never really fought in reality... sometimes you fight a smarter adversary... sometimes a stupid motherfukker will out stupid you.
There's levels to men's spirits with fights and you have to identify them quickly and figure out if its for you or against you.
As much as fighting is 85% square ... the best half of real true fights can adapt to situations and end shyt as soon as possible
MMA is brilliant and has a very great loose element of real fighting but that shyt doesnt define the reality of fighting at all. nikkas who can really fight in a real match
with none of the aura surrounding will hurt you, no matter who you are. History has proven that all them cats in life catch a bad one, even with structure and shyt. Floyd should have been
athlete of the decade and I'm not even a big fan, but thats in HIS SPORT. There's dudes out here, and I dont mean MMA ... that would fukk floyd up in a real fight... same weight class. Every dude mentioned in this thread could meet a very unfortunate end to be real with yall.
 

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Y’all really think a 170 lb Mike Perry gonna knock out around a 230 lbs Michael Jae White? Hell tf naw. MJW got like 50 maybe 60 lbs on this man and hits even harder
now size matters?

and when have you seen MJW hit anything?
 

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now you're moving the goalpost. you said dudes who have never competed in their lives walk into mma at the highest levels and become champs and top contenders. when in fact the dude you named has YEARS of experience doing arguably the most important part of mma:skip: youre bringing up clout and all this nonsense. d1 d2 it doesnt matter they beat each other all the time.
Juco isn't D2 or D3 let alone D1. So it does matter. If he was D2 you'd have a point but that's not the case. Doesn't mean he couldn't have made it, it just means he didn't. I wrestled for years and trained in boxing for years. I have zero mma experience. None. It doesn't mean I have years of mma training. Having skills elsewhere doesn't equal mma training breh. The fact is he had zero mixed martial arts training, spent a couple months doing just that and within a few more he was running through UFC favorites all the way to the top. No he didn't get a title shot right off the bat but that's just politics because as we clearly saw, he was more than skilled enough to have it almost immediately. His title run was ridiculous because of the clear fact that he dominanted everyone, everytime in every way. No matter who they had on the card, he was always the better fighter. That's the point. That doesn't happen in boxing.
 

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Juco isn't D2 or D3 let alone D1. So it does matter. If he was D2 you'd have a point but that's not the case. Doesn't mean he couldn't have made it, it just means he didn't. I wrestled for years and trained in boxing for years. I have zero mma experience. None. It doesn't mean I have years of mma training. Having skills elsewhere doesn't equal mma training breh. The fact is he had zero mixed martial arts training, spent a couple months doing just that and within a few more he was running through UFC favorites all the way to the top. No he didn't get a title shot right off the bat but that's just politics because as we clearly saw, he was more than skilled enough to have it almost immediately. His title run was ridiculous because of the clear fact that he dominanted everyone, everytime in every way. No matter who they had on the card, he was always the better fighter. That's the point. That doesn't happen in boxing.


YES it does.. when one its one of the most important parts of the sport it does. youre literally ignoring the history of the sport saying otherwise.


david benavidez.
Roberto Duran.
julio ceaser chavez.
deontay wilder
 

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YES it does.. when one its one of the most important parts of the sport it does. youre literally ignoring the history of the sport saying otherwise.


david benavidez.
Roberto Duran.
julio ceaser chavez.
deontay wilder

Having wrestling as a base for your mma training regardless of how well a foundation it is, isn't mma training. No one calls wrestling training, mma training. They just have a wrestling background to build off of.

Benavidez was training for years before he ever had an amateur fight. Not months. Can't speak on Duran to say I know what he did, I'll give you that cause I simply don't know. JCC was a Mexican fighter in an era and country that damn near don't believe in amateur ranks. He probably had 15 fights before he went pro. I couldn't tell you when he started training tho. And Wilder was an amateur for 3yrs and was an Olympian before he ever went pro. In the 3yrs it took Wilder to go from zero training and have his first professional fight, was enough time for Jones to go from zero training and run through the entire UFC and was champion. That's proving my point breh.
 

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yall always jump into sports talk and fan fiction, especially with MMA.
nikkas catch a bad one... none of that shyt matters when you fight someone thats strength is your weakness
You can tell dudes never really fought in reality... sometimes you fight a smarter adversary... sometimes a stupid motherfukker will out stupid you.
There's levels to men's spirits with fights and you have to identify them quickly and figure out if its for you or against you.
As much as fighting is 85% square ... the best half of real true fights can adapt to situations and end shyt as soon as possible
MMA is brilliant and has a very great loose element of real fighting but that shyt doesnt define the reality of fighting at all. nikkas who can really fight in a real match
with none of the aura surrounding will hurt you, no matter who you are.
History has proven that all them cats in life catch a bad one, even with structure and shyt. Floyd should have been
athlete of the decade and I'm not even a big fan, but thats in HIS SPORT. There's dudes out here, and I dont mean MMA ... that would fukk floyd up in a real fight... same weight class. Every dude mentioned in this thread could meet a very unfortunate end to be real with yall.
This. Folks dont realize that MMA is a SPORT, not a STYLE. MMA fighters are trained and conditioned to face other MMA fighters, in MMA fights. Fighters do cross train in several arts, but most MMA fighters bread and butter are usually
1.Wrestling/Jiu Jitsu/Judo/Sambo
2. Boxing
3. Kickboxing/Muay Thai
Most fighters train in those styles and how to defend against those styles. The most successful fighters however go outside the box and train in TMAs such as karate, tkd, etc to gain that unorthodox advantage on fighters with tactics they dont train to deal with. Then on top of this, these fighters view other fighters footage in camp to develop a strategy and gameplan to win within that environment. You get none of that in a street fight, and especially against someone trained to FIGHT FIGHT and not just to compete for sport. Theres so many variables involved in actual fights that you cant prepare for and have to deal with as they come. MJW would be more suited for that type of situation because hes been trained to deal as much damage in the shortest amount of time and end fights as quickly as possible, even if that means permanently injuring or killing someone. In a fight, hes gonna pull some shyt an average MMA athlete has never trained to deal with. He gets the element of surprise on an MMA guy. Just cuz someone fights MMA doesnt mean they cant catch Ls from highly skilled people when out of their element.
 

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Having wrestling as a base for your mma training regardless of how well a foundation it is, isn't mma training. No one calls wrestling training, mma training. They just have a wrestling background to build off of.

Benavidez was training for years before he ever had an amateur fight. Not months. Can't speak on Duran to say I know what he did, I'll give you that cause I simply don't know. JCC was a Mexican fighter in an era and country that damn near don't believe in amateur ranks. He probably had 15 fights before he went pro. I couldn't tell you when he started training tho. And Wilder was an amateur for 3yrs and was an Olympian before he ever went pro. In the 3yrs it took Wilder to start training and have his first professional fight, Jones had already ran through the entire UFC and was champion. That's proving my point breh.

anthony mudane was a rugby player before going pro and holding the super middleweight belt twice.:skip: 10 fights in he was fighting for a title:skip:

dwight braxton trained in prison went pro right after getting out, went 1-1-1, won 14 straight entered the world rankings and became champ that same year:skip:
 

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anthony mudane was a rugby player before going pro and holding the super middleweight belt twice.:skip: 10 fights in he was fighting for a title:skip:

dwight braxton trained in prison went pro right after getting out, went 1-1-1, won 14 straight entered the world rankings and became champ that same year:skip:
I ain't even gonna act like I know who either of these dudes are.:hubie:
 

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yall always jump into sports talk and fan fiction, especially with MMA.
nikkas catch a bad one... none of that shyt matters when you fight someone thats strength is your weakness
You can tell dudes never really fought in reality... sometimes you fight a smarter adversary... sometimes a stupid motherfukker will out stupid you.
There's levels to men's spirits with fights and you have to identify them quickly and figure out if its for you or against you.
As much as fighting is 85% square ... the best half of real true fights can adapt to situations and end shyt as soon as possible
MMA is brilliant and has a very great loose element of real fighting but that shyt doesnt define the reality of fighting at all. nikkas who can really fight in a real match
with none of the aura surrounding will hurt you, no matter who you are. History has proven that all them cats in life catch a bad one, even with structure and shyt. Floyd should have been
athlete of the decade and I'm not even a big fan, but thats in HIS SPORT. There's dudes out here, and I dont mean MMA ... that would fukk floyd up in a real fight... same weight class. Every dude mentioned in this thread could meet a very unfortunate end to be real with yall.

This. Folks dont realize that MMA is a SPORT, not a STYLE. MMA fighters are trained and conditioned to face other MMA fighters, in MMA fights. Fighters do cross train in several arts, but most MMA fighters bread and butter are usually
1.Wrestling/Jiu Jitsu/Judo/Sambo
2. Boxing
3. Kickboxing/Muay Thai
Most fighters train in those styles and how to defend against those styles. The most successful fighters however go outside the box and train in TMAs such as karate, tkd, etc to gain that unorthodox advantage on fighters with tactics they dont train to deal with. Then on top of this, these fighters view other fighters footage in camp to develop a strategy and gameplan to win within that environment. You get none of that in a street fight, and especially against someone trained to FIGHT FIGHT and not just to compete for sport. Theres so many variables involved in actual fights that you cant prepare for and have to deal with as they come. MJW would be more suited for that type of situation because hes been trained to deal as much damage in the shortest amount of time and end fights as quickly as possible, even if that means permanently injuring or killing someone. In a fight, hes gonna pull some shyt an average MMA athlete has never trained to deal with. He gets the element of surprise on an MMA guy. Just cuz someone fights MMA doesnt mean they cant catch Ls from highly skilled people when out of their element.

Just to piggyback off of both of yall, I've said the same premise before, that being trained in specific fighting disciplines doesn't ensure you'd win a street fight...

I've seen it happen on a few occasions in the past, trained MMA style or boxers get beat up...that training presents an advantage with the average undisciplined fighter...

When the (relatively) rare person who isn't professionally groomed or trained to fight, but just has a natural inclination on how to read and react and attack, ends up matched with a trained fighter, all bets are off, and yes, alota times this catches trained guy off guard, who in his mind's eye is prepared to fight how he was taught in a confined, controlled environment...

Most street fights aren't controlled or confined and a veteran of street fights would be at an advantage...
 

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If this was ANY other competent pro fighter that was close to MJW’s weight I’d take them in a vicious knockout...

But since this dude is so much smaller I gotta say he would get manhandled. And that’s not because I think MJW is a beast...he’s an actor. I just think weight is too big of a factor to ignore.
 
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