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What do the UK brehs think about the Chris Kaba story? I always thought it was weird they said the Audi he was in was involved in a shooting but wouldn't say why he was driving it. Now it's coming out he's a gang member and shot someone in the leg and chased them in the street
okay admittedly I haven't read any of the stories coming out this week lol, but from the headlines I haven't seen anything that warrants him getting shot in the head. And it's very... convenient that the judge had all this information at hand just ready to drop, or rather that they thought letting this information go public would calm things down and essentially absolve the police officer, as if to justify what happened? I thought capital punishment and summary executions had been done away with, but only for some, it seems.

Look at these names (and which police force shows up most often :mjpls:): List of killings by law enforcement officers in the United Kingdom - Wikipedia

Given that this is the Met it is not surprising, if still disappointing.
 

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okay admittedly I haven't read any of the stories coming out this week lol, but from the headlines I haven't seen anything that warrants him getting shot in the head. And it's very... convenient that the judge had all this information at hand just ready to drop, or rather that they thought letting this information go public would calm things down and essentially absolve the police officer, as if to justify what happened? I thought capital punishment and summary executions had been done away with, but only for some, it seems.

Look at these names (and which police force shows up most often :mjpls:): List of killings by law enforcement officers in the United Kingdom - Wikipedia

Given that this is the Met it is not surprising, if still disappointing.
his lengthy criminal history and the fact that he attempted to murder people twice in the 6 days before his death was restricted from reporting due to the judge deeming it not relevant, and also it was not known to the cop at the time. once the trial was over the reporting restrictions were lifted and now everyone can see what he was about.
 

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his lengthy criminal history and the fact that he attempted to murder people twice in the 6 days before his death was restricted from reporting due to the judge deeming it not relevant, and also it was not known to the cop at the time. once the trial was over the reporting restrictions were lifted and now everyone can see what he was about.
Were they saying in the initial story that he was trying drive through the cars? I don't remember. Seeing the video, it doesn't seem to do him any favors, don't know if it needed a bullet to the head. Him doing the attempted murders and driving in the car that was being sought for a shooting is wild. Sounds like dude was doing way too much
 

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from chatgpt 4o-mini

Before British colonialism, various regions around the world had their own forms of governance and institutions that could be seen as precursors to democratic practices, though they differed significantly from modern democracy. Here are a few examples:

1. **India**: In many regions, local assemblies called "panchayats" existed, where village elders would discuss and resolve issues collectively. In some princely states, councils of nobles would advise rulers, and in regions influenced by Buddhism, there were practices of consensus and communal decision-making.

2. **Africa**: Numerous African societies had forms of governance that emphasized consensus and communal leadership. For instance, the Akan people of West Africa had a system of chieftaincy with councils that involved the community in decision-making. The Swahili city-states had merchant councils that influenced trade and governance.

3. **Southeast Asia**: In places like the Malay Archipelago, various kingdoms had assemblies of nobles (e.g., "majlis") that participated in governance. In some areas, the concept of "mufakat" or consensus was crucial in decision-making processes.

4. **The Americas**: Indigenous nations such as the Iroquois Confederacy had sophisticated systems of governance, with a council of leaders representing different tribes making decisions through consensus. This system is often cited as an influence on democratic ideas in the United States.

5. **Pacific Islands**: Many Polynesian societies, such as those in Hawaii, had councils of chiefs and a system of governance that involved the community in decision-making processes, although the extent of participatory governance varied.

These systems were often informal and based on local customs and traditions rather than written constitutions or formal democratic frameworks, but they exhibited principles of collective decision-making and representation that resonate with democratic ideals.


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Here’s a more detailed exploration of the democratic institutions and governance practices in various regions before British colonialism:

### 1. **India**

In India, prior to British rule, governance varied widely across regions, but several notable structures and practices facilitated local governance:

- **Panchayats**: These were village councils that played a crucial role in local governance. Composed of elders or respected community members, panchayats would discuss issues, mediate disputes, and make decisions based on consensus. The system allowed for participation from various community members, reflecting a form of grassroots governance.

- **Princely States**: In many princely states, local rulers would often establish advisory councils composed of nobles and representatives from different communities. These councils would advise the ruler on matters of governance, taxation, and law, allowing for some level of input from various societal groups.

- **Buddhist Councils**: In ancient times, especially during the Mauryan Empire, Buddhist councils like the Third Buddhist Council (3rd century BCE) facilitated discussions about religious and social governance, reflecting a form of collective decision-making.

### 2. **Africa**

Across the African continent, diverse societies developed unique governance structures that often emphasized community participation:

- **Akan Chieftaincy**: Among the Akan people of West Africa, the chieftaincy system involved chiefs who were supported by councils of elders and commoners. Decision-making was generally participatory, with chiefs often consulting their councils before making significant decisions. This council included representatives from different clans, ensuring that multiple voices were heard.

- **Swahili City-States**: In East Africa, the Swahili city-states operated with councils that governed trade and community issues. Merchants and community leaders would convene to discuss trade regulations, conflict resolution, and community welfare, highlighting a collective approach to governance.

- **The Kingdom of Mali**: The Mali Empire had a structured political system that included a council of ministers and regional governors, who were often elected by local populations. This system enabled significant local input into governance.

### 3. **Southeast Asia**

Southeast Asia featured a mix of centralized and decentralized governance structures that often incorporated local customs and community involvement:

- **Malay Kingdoms**: In the Malay Archipelago, various kingdoms had councils known as "majlis" or "musyawarah" that brought together nobles and representatives from different factions of society to discuss governance, laws, and trade matters. Decisions were often made through consensus, reflecting community engagement.

- **Javanese Village Councils**: In Java, village governance involved councils called "desa," where village heads (lurah) worked with community members to address local issues. The desa system allowed for local input and communal decision-making.

### 4. **The Americas**

Indigenous nations in North America had complex political systems that prioritized consensus and representation:

- **Iroquois Confederacy**: The Iroquois had a sophisticated political system where several tribes formed a confederacy, governed by the Great Law of Peace. Decision-making was conducted through councils, where representatives from each tribe debated issues. The emphasis on consensus and collective decision-making influenced democratic thought, particularly in the development of the United States’ governance.

- **Pueblo Societies**: In the Southwest, Pueblo societies practiced a form of participatory governance through communal meetings, where decisions were made collectively. Elders and leaders would guide discussions, but all community members had a voice.

### 5. **Pacific Islands**

In the Pacific, various island societies also exhibited democratic elements through communal decision-making:

- **Hawaiian Governance**: In ancient Hawaii, governance involved a system of chiefs (aliʻi) who consulted with councils of advisors (kahuna and other chiefs) on matters affecting the community. Local governance often emphasized the participation of commoners in decision-making processes during community meetings.

- **Tongan Council of Chiefs**: In Tonga, the monarchy operated with a council of nobles (fale kainga) that played an advisory role, and local chiefs would gather to discuss community issues, reflecting a blend of hierarchical and participatory governance.

### Conclusion

While these systems varied widely in their structure and implementation, they all demonstrated an emphasis on community participation, collective decision-making, and a degree of representation that laid the groundwork for later democratic practices. The imposition of colonial rule often disrupted these systems, leading to significant changes in governance and societal organization.
 
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