Umar Johnson Confronted by a LGBT Feminist at KC lecture
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I never said that sexism was greater than racism (though that could be argued). I described their existence, and that both are toxic to people. Black male privilege is real. It may be slight, but it exists. The society that you create outside of white supremacist society will be patriarchal. That is what we are trying to change. We don't hate black men. We want to help you. Once many of you get rid of your sexist notions those of us with objections will happily join in the fight (we're already denouncing it on our own anyway). Who wants to be in a movement that won't allow you to be a leader anyway? Also, I don't need to be "reached". I'm quite intellectually capable.
Firstly, I'm not a feminist. I'm a womanist. We do plenty to help the community. Firtsly, we uplift black women. This is something that I personally do with the children in my local school system. The black feminists call attention to problems that we face in our community. It was two black feminists who organized that 75,000 New York March. I find it laughable that you all praise MLK Jr. for doing that, but you mock those women for doing that.So what are you doing to help out the Black community as a Feminist? And where are your comrades? Inquiring minds would like to know.
Patriarchy, women not feeling sexism was dealt with was a large part in the collapse of the civil rights movement. So if this is civil rights era II, we need to learn the flaws that contributed to the destruction the first time and do this with a much more progressive outlook.
Exactly, no one wants to be a second class citizen in their own movement!
Umar ain't about nothing of long term substance. He just running around here talking everywhere. Btw, I really dislike the usage of bed wench everywhere on here. I know that's the scapegoat slur against black women, but it's just a really disgusting term. Black women who were violently raped and abused in the most demonic ways possible historically, and that's what you're going to refer to another black woman as just because she might be queer or a feminist? I hate to be the PC police, but ijs. It seems very anti black to refer to another black person with such a hateful abusive violent slur.
You are making some over generalizations concerning Black men. It seems like you're asking for a seat at the table that Black men aren't even sitting at. What's more important to you....Being Black or being a Black woman?
They're not separable. I want an entirely different table for blacks only where we all sit there as equals. The best among us regardless of gender will lead, and there will be a better future for blacks.
That's a fair notion, but is it counterproductive to try to say I want respect from whites as well as Black men? Meaning that, if you had to choose one fight to fight, which battle would it be against. White supremacy or Black male sexism with in the fight for respect.? Because there have been some strong Black female activists, but it's also known that if shyt ever gets real, Black men are not going to rally behind a Black woman. Think about when you see a Black couple; if you notice that the woman is making all of the decisions and running the household and is in charge of the finances; you're going to view that man as weak. Should there be a fair and equal exchange of ideas and solutions? Sure, but ultimately, I believe that the head of any movement that relates to Black people should be lead by Black men.
This kind of doube-talk is another form of dishonesty. "Uh uh I didn't say that.......but it could be true"
The belief that sexism is just as oppressive to black women as racism is one of the principles that black feminism is built on and it's not true. You can argue anything but that's weak. I just debunked that and you've said nothing to refute my counter.And I described the society that we live in as a white male patriarchal society, not one that privileges all males over all women. It's dishonest not to acknowledge that fact.
No it doesn't. There is no black male privilege in this society. It's insulting and disloyal for black feminists to run around parroting that lie. Especially when it's actually the other way around.
Making blind negative assumptions and broad negative generalizations about all black men isn't helping miss. Let me make some generalizations about women like you. I think that black women like you are insecure about being black women. I think that black feminists fear and envy black men much like white men and that's the source of the resentment. I mean damn, black men have been damn near completely emasculated in this society and black feminists want them to bow down even more. Seriously, what "black male patriarchy" what "black male privilege"? Since you're intellectually capable then I expect tangible real examples. None of that truly oppresses black women. The only systematic oppression that black women face is white supremacy. Trying to take the focus away from white supremacy and put it on socalled black male sexism/patriarchy or anything like that is nothing but a deflection. Black men are not your oppressors, they aren't your enemy. You can't take that stance then deny that you're divisive.
Leaders don't wait for people to allow them to lead. There's nobody stopping black women from leading anything. People must want to follow you in order to be a leader.
sounds like you're much better off donating to say, the harlem children's zone (http://hcz.org/) and not to some dude who will charge you 50 bucks for a 30 minute phone call
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Black Women are making more money than Black Men and graduating school at double the rate. What privilege do we have?
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