Umm ya bamas know LA, DMV, Detroit & Chi-Raq are getting "gentrifried" too right?

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Gentrification isn't going anywhere.
High fuel prices and shytty infrastructure made people realize that suburban long commute life isn't what it's cracked up to be.

Also, people thought the advancement of communication technologies would make it possible for them to work far apart and be productive.
Turned out it doesn't really work like that.
You can't duplicate Silicon Valley, you can't duplicate Wall Street, you can't duplicate Hollywood.
You have to physically be there to make it happen. It's not going to change.

Plus, a lot of developing countries are way more richer than before - in the 90's it was only the Japs who wanted to buy American real estate and assets, now it's sovereign funds from China, Korea, Singapore, UAE and wealthy individuals from Southeast Asia and Russia all wanting the piece of prime Amercian metro real estate.
With cheaper American real estate prices and their sound balance sheet numbers, they can play the long game with America.

It's a macro global trend.
I don't see South Bronx getting gentrified anytime soon, though.
 

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I still dont see how its a bad thing.
If you dont know how to act, why should people really care about where you live? Black folks w/ money are moving into these neighborhoods too.

This shyt bubbles slowly. All these black folks on tv w/ their fake outrage are just playing to their crowd. Gentrification in Chicago started around the time the United Center was being built...that was in the 90's!! but now cats want to act like the victim. If you actually owned something, and didnt fukk up your own neighborhood you wouldnt have anything to worry about.

The Al Sharpton types want to act appalled...but how come they didnt invest in the hood when there was no hope? There are enough black folks w/ money (especially in NYC) that could have bought up crazy cheap property...did they do it??
My dude I've been checking out your conservative principals and I'm impressed

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There was some gentrification going on in LA right in the heart of Downtown by Staples Center so they could develop some what of a really scaled down version of Time Square with the convention center/staples center/nokia theatre as the back drop.

The difference is that part of Downtown didn't have all that much cultural significance because it was mainly just old warehouses/industrial and really shabby living areas. It's not quite the same as 5 points, really.
 

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eh. That Detroit vice piece was lazy. The city of Detroit literally has zero chain grocery stores (:salute: to Savon)


Whole Foods was put there because of Wayne State University, the only place vice could have taken pics of white people unless it was at a lions tigers red wings game. Wayne state has always had whites.

And it's about damn time Detroit has some semblance of being modern.
 

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Didn't they talk about gentrification in Boyz in the hood? Anyway, gentrification is happening everywhere that's obvious. It's easier in NYC because NYC has a name. You can sell NYC to foreigners. It's just people hear Bloomberg say things like Safest big city and dudes go crazy but there are only like 4 or 5 major cities in America and all of them are being gentrified. Either by foreigners, northerners or hipsters.

Gentrification still today isn't mentioned among many rappers, especially the ones that "speak for the hood"
 

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Gentrification is only one of many many factors.

Have you seen that Google Plus video chat panel that Elliot Wilson of Rap Radar hosted? He had Maino, Owner of Smoking Section blog, Combat Jack, some Latina writer, and an Asian dude. It's about 55 minutes long and posted on Jay-Z's Life and Times youtube channel. I think they get to the bottom of why New York Hip-Hop has changed. You should view it if you have time.

got a link to this video?
 

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Black people didn't really have a foothold in LA except maybe South Central and Watts, and your upperscale areas like Ladera and Baldwin Hills, which cacs can't take away because those blacks are rich. They can have South Central and Watts because unlike yall, blacks left there FOR the gentrified areas (I thought this was common knowledge), we swagged out on the westcoast. :umad:

Even places like Noho got gentrified and cleaned up, and the small black population still didn't budge (the hispanics up and left tho), that extra $300 didn't hurt no ones pockets outchea. :umad:
 

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Why that face?

Let me clarify, Hip-Hop is an Black-American or African-American sub culture...so obviously a decrease in a city's Black population is going to have an adverse affect on the scene. I've read that Blacks are increasingly moving back down south...southern cities are gonna have poppin scenes.

I listened to the Combat Jack Podcast and Spike Lee was on there and he was talking about how Blacks and Hispanics are being priced out of the city.

Remember the people are the culture and the culture moves with the people.
 

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Why that face?

Let me clarify, Hip-Hop is an Black-American or African-American sub culture...so obviously a decrease in a city's Black population is going to have an adverse affect on the scene. I've read that Blacks are increasingly moving back down south...southern cities are gonna have poppin scenes.

I listened to the Combat Jack Podcast and Spike Lee was on there and he was talking about how Blacks and Hispanics are being priced out of the city.

Remember the people are the culture and the culture moves with the people.

I agree, and that is why NY can never have total domination among the black population in Hip Hop ever again.
 

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eh. That Detroit vice piece was lazy. The city of Detroit literally has zero chain grocery stores (:salute: to Savon)


Whole Foods was put there because of Wayne State University, the only place vice could have taken pics of white people unless it was at a lions tigers red wings game. Wayne state has always had whites.

And it's about damn time Detroit has some semblance of being modern.

yea I watched that 1 hr mini doc on CNN titled "Places Unknown: Detroit" with Anthony Bourdan (I believe that is his name) and heard the same thing. Damn a city with a pop of 700k and no supermarket/grocery store? SMH someone should have gotten on top of that.
 

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In the next 20 years, all the poor (read: minorities) will be pushed out into Newark, Irvington, Orange, Yonkers and the outermost fringe areas of the boroughs. Yall New Yorkers....you live in the most attractive city on the globe. You're not only competing with the 1% in the country that want to live in New York but, the wealthy from across the world. They're gonna keep driving the price up and tearing down your neighborhoods. It ain't hard to understand. If you're a landlord and you have a choice between renting to low income tenants or selling to a luxury loft/condo developer, which choice you making, b?

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The first wave is already in process. Williamsburg, Park Slope, Long Island City, Astoria, Harlem now too. There's apartments in Williamsburg going for $3,000 and $5,000 a month. I know sh*t wasn't like that in the 80s and the 90s. All yall people with rent controlled apartments thinking yall safe? Yea, aight :mjpls: By 2030, Manhattan will only be a place for the rich and wealthy. The upper middle class will live in the boroughs. All the poor muthafukkas will be out in Jersey somewhere riding PATH in and out the city :mjpls:. D.C. about ten years behind but, I see the same pattern happening here.
 
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