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Universal Music shuts down Island Def Jam Records. Fires Def Jam CEO
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They are doing wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy better than hip-hop that I can tell you.Yea cause other genres are doing big numbers
Touring and 360s has been the words for the last few years.
The music business fukked up in the early 2000s by being too conservative and thinking that the law was above the power of the internet.
The biggest genres are
1. Rock (which is like 30 genres with a million small artists in one)
2. R&b and soul
3. Hiphop and country.
Not counting pop.
And it's been like that, cause rock and RnB have all these catalog sales of legends and mad artists with small followings.
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MegaTronBomb!
Power is in my hair nikka
They don't have the money to properly fund and promote albums breh, that's what caused their 2013 to be as awful as it was.
Kanye alone can't keep Def Jam afloat, the 8-10 other acts have to perform well if they want to keep that label running..... but if there wasn't enough money to go around when it was Def Jam/Island/Motown, how exactly is that gonna work with just Def Jam operating by itself?
The reconsolidation will create new avenues for capital and revenue streams. Its a tried and true paradigm.
Naw Country is WAY bigger than hip hop for the last 5 years at least.... thing about country is they dont really get much love outside of their core fanbase... but their core fans buy records.
R&B and Soul are selling only if you include Justin Timberlake, Robin Thicke, Beyonce and Rhianna outside of those artists it doesnt really sell that well or get mainstream love... and Rhianna doesnt really make R&B she makes electro - dance - pop that is marketed to black people, similar to chris brown...
yea country is the number one selling genre followed by pop. Not sure where he was getting his stats. Rock is probably 3rd if you include classic rock sales. Rock and pop is so vague that it depends how you classify them, they could alternate between 2 or 3. I worked in radio for a decade so im not telling you what i heard, tellin u what i know
Clark Wayne
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Classic rock still has great sales, the recent rock is hip hop status. Just look online with all the articles talking about how rock is dead. The new wave is the pop rock shyt like Imagine Dragons and Fun or folk rock like Mumford and Sons.
Country music is on top and although Pop albums don't do well 1st week, they have consistent sells. Rihanna for example has never had amazing 1st week sales at all but everyone of her albums except her first went platinum. Lady Gaga's 1st album sold 24k 1st week. I repeat, 24k and now that shyt has sold over 4 million copies just in the U.S and I'm pretty sure we now how Adele shytted on everyone with her album sales.
Hip-Hop on the other hand has the most front loaded sales. After the 1st week there is a major drop off and that's it. Only a few artist in the hip hop game like Drake, Kendrick, Jay-Z, Kanye and Eminem have albums that still sell decent months after release.
Country music is on top and although Pop albums don't do well 1st week, they have consistent sells. Rihanna for example has never had amazing 1st week sales at all but everyone of her albums except her first went platinum. Lady Gaga's 1st album sold 24k 1st week. I repeat, 24k and now that shyt has sold over 4 million copies just in the U.S and I'm pretty sure we now how Adele shytted on everyone with her album sales.
Hip-Hop on the other hand has the most front loaded sales. After the 1st week there is a major drop off and that's it. Only a few artist in the hip hop game like Drake, Kendrick, Jay-Z, Kanye and Eminem have albums that still sell decent months after release.
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You are right, I was looking at a list from 2010 the latest one I found had
1. Rock
2. R&B
3. Country
4. Hiphop
But the thin with country is that a lot of is is actually rock or pop and just marketed as country depending on the label/the powers behind the artist. It seems to be very different calculations from different sources. Some include pop some don't. So on some lists Beyonce might be pop and some R&B, some Taylor Swift might be country, some pop.
Anyhow if you want to bundle up genres like they do with rock, R&B and hiphop is the 2nd biggest genre in albums (behind rock) and 2nd biggest in singles (behind pop).
And notable is that hiphop is the #1 genre in illegal downloading in 2012 and was also the #1 genre in paid subscribing services such as pandora, spotify etc in 2011, #3 in 2012. Those lists however split up rock in 3-4 different genres. So this probably indicates that hiphop has young listeners, generally early adopters of new technology, almost twice as many digital singles and went from having a lot more digital sales in 2010 to about the same in 2012 etc.. It would be interesting to see how these lists looked if we only looked at age 13-40.
Also hiphop declined from 12.9% to just shy of 10% from 2000 to 2012, so shyt has not really changed.
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Gaga's second album did 1 million and had like a 90% decrease though
So she's not the best example.
Her first album did those numbers because it was a debut album, no one had heard of her except on some Wale song and some (at the time minor single) before that album.
Clark Wayne
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Gaga's second album did 1 million and had like a 90% decrease though
So she's not the best example.
Her first album did those numbers because it was a debut album, no one had heard of her except on some Wale song and some (at the time minor single) before that album.
Her album sold 1 million because amazon sold it for 99 cents the first two days of release. Without that she would have sold 600k 1st week.
