Untouchable: Harvey Weinstein Documentary [Leaving Neverland was just a DISTRACTION]

[Billy Ocean]

Here are the nielsen ratings numbers for the night that the HBO docu series about JIMMY IOVINE & DR DRE debuted . dated July 11, 2017

chart of top 25 shows and article in link

Sunday cable ratings: Amelia Earhart documentary scores big for History


Top 25 original cable shows among adults 18-49 for Sunday, July 9, 2017



History’s “Amelia Earhart: The Lost Evidence” scored big ratings for the channel Sunday night.

The two-hour special purporting to show evidence that Earhart survived the 1937 crash of her airplane in the South Pacific drew 4.32 million viewers, the biggest audience on cable for the week. Its 0.9 rating among adults 18-49 tied for the lead Sunday.

The final two “Fear the Walking Dead” episodes of the summer were in line with recent ratings. The 9 p.m. episode drew a 0.9, and the 10 p.m. one came in at 0.8. “Power” also scored a 0.8 for Starz, up 0.2 from the previous week. “Claws” was steady at 0.4 on TNT. The premiere of documentary “The Defiant Ones” was just outside the top 25 with a 0.3.


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Wait,.................... so a well publicized documentary about Jimmy Iovine AND Dr Dre didn't crack the top 25 for cable shows on Sunday? In July?
How many people would have watched it if it was only about Jimmy Iovine?

So, yes... I'm going to double down on my comment about behind the scenes people.

Your argument that nobody knew who Weinstein is and that's why the doc on him is not getting any attention holds zero weight tho. Since the sexual misconduct allegations have came out EVERYBODY knows who he is. It's been well over a year since these allegations came out. He's a household name now and the #metoo movement is still going strong. Since the allegations broke he's been more in the public's conscious than both MJ (a man who's been dead for a decade) and Kellz (a man who is far from his commercial relevancy).

 

[3rdWorld]

Oprah is Candace Owens status to me

 

[omnifax]

If you are denying that the Harvey Weinstein documentary has had little to no attention in comparison to the documentaries on R. Kelly and Michael Jackson then you are being disingenuous. I won't go as far to say that they were deliberately used as a distraction from the Harvey Weinstein film as it is difficult to prove something of that nature. I will say that while Harvey Weinstein has lost his company he is still a very well known, powerful producer in Hollywood with lots of connections established over the years. It would not surprise me at all that he has the ability to suppress the distribution or exposure of this documentary via those connections.

I also think throwing out the argument that the R. Kelly and Michael Jackson documentary cannot or are not being used as a proxy to further criminalize black males is absurd. It's been talked about for decades how crimes committed by blacks are heavily focused on in the media to support the pathology of blacks being just generally unscrupulous people. Acknowledging this widely proven act does not mean you want a black person who as done something wrong to go unpunished.

If you have an issue with posters not being clear on this incident you should ask them to clarify. From what I read of the posts those people who mentioned that the absence of or as it stands now the lack of knowledge of a Harvey Weinstein documentary was an example of inconsistency when it comes to the social justice movements. While I agree that Harvey Weinstein is not as famous worldwide as R. Kelly or Michael Jackson he was the primary focus of the "Times up" movement and has allegations going back several decades involving well known actresses. He has been inextricably tied to sexual abuse/rape within the industry and I don't see how anyone can argue the opposite.

 

[1thouwow]

That’s y’all black queen Oprah tho

 

[Fatboi1]

Anyone suggesting that the Weinstein doc had more coverage and attention to it compared to MJ's or R Kelly's is lying and is being intellectually dishonest. I heard about Leaving Neverland and Surviving R kelly from word of mouth at WORK. Weinsteins? I had to deliberartely search it.
We all know salicious headlines about black people are hot topics and that's why I couldn't stop hearing about R kelly shyt vs Weinstein.

 

[get these nets]

Like I said, a doc. about Weinstein has been posted in this thread.............share it.I will remove the link soon.

On 3/23/19 you come back here and tell me how many people have watched it, or whether it's trending on social media,etc

 

[get these nets]

Your argument that nobody knew who Weinstein is and that's why the doc on him is not getting any attention holds zero weight tho. Since the sexual misconduct allegations have came out EVERYBODY knows who he is. It's been well over a year since these allegations came out. He's a household name now and the #metoo movement is still going strong. Since the allegations broke he's been more in the public's conscious than both MJ (a man who's been dead for a decade) and Kellz (a man who is far from his commercial relevancy).

No, what I said is that he is still a behind the scenes figure. If Harrison Ford and Stephen Spielberg were to both get arrested separately for the same crime, Ford's story would draw more public attention. People are aware of who Spielberg is, but he's a behind the scenes figure.

 

[Billy Ocean]

Like I said, a doc. about Weinstein has been posted in this thread.............share it.I will remove the link soon.

On 3/23/19 you come back here and tell me how many people have watched it, or whether it's trending on social media,etc

What does that even mean? Will us watching it and sharing it make media outlets start reporting on it with the ferocity they did the MJ and Kelly docs?

 

[Billy Ocean]

No, what I said is that he is still a behind the scenes figure. If Harrison Ford and Stephen Spielberg were to both get arrested separately for the same crime, Ford's story would draw more public attention. People are aware of who Spielberg is, but he's a behind the scenes figure.

Stop it

Now you just embarrassing yourself.

 

[get these nets]

What does that even mean? Will us watching it and sharing it make media outlets start reporting on it with the ferocity they did the MJ and Kelly docs?

Ball is in the air, no need to shake or move the goal posts.

I just asked people to share the vid and tell me what kind of interest exists for it.

 

[get these nets]

What are you even saying? They don't have to be on camera talking about it. Was R. Kelly on cam talking about the allegations leveled against him in that doc? Was MJ on the Leaving Neverland doc?

I didn't watch any of those docs. I knew about them from posts here, but the obvious answer to your question is that MJ and R. Kelly are the star power that drove the attention for the shows.
Weinstein is not a star........notoriety? yes................star power? no
The A list actresses who have come out and publicly accused him of sexual assault would have to appear speaking out against him in interviews filmed FOR the doc., for it to have the star power attached to it to draw many viewers.

Which is why I asked you to post the trailer. I am still waiting for it, btw

 

[Billy Ocean]

I didn't watch any of those docs. I knew about them from posts here, but the obvious answer to your question is that MJ and R. Kelly are the star power that drove the attention for the shows.
Weinstein is not a star........notoriety? yes................star power? no
The A list actresses who have come out and publicly accused him of sexual assault would have to appear speaking out against him in interviews filmed FOR the doc., for it to have the star power attached to it to draw many viewers.

Which is why I asked you to post the trailer. I am still waiting for it, btw

What you're saying doesn't make any sense. The story of a colossal Hollywood exec abusing his power and sexually assaulting a litany of Hollywood's biggest actresses should be as big of a draw as a laughably one sided doc of 2 known liars accusing a decades old dead man of molestation and a doc of a man who is really no longer commercially relevant and people already knew was a sexual deviant. Matter fact, neither the MJ or Kellz doc set any type of ratings records, and understandably so. Why was the media so infatuated with pushing those docs so fervently and not the one about the poster boy for the #metoo movement and involves huge relevant and ALIVE Hollywood stars?

 

[GodsPerspective]

Predatory celebrities are under attack, stop caping for nikkas that fukking rape children just because they're Black. If R Kelly raped Black boys instead the whole energy surrounding this shyt would be different from you nikkas.

What's your proof that Michael Jackson raped children?

You know something the FBI doesnt

Enlighten us please

 

[Matt504]

What's your proof that Michael Jackson raped children?

You know something the FBI doesnt

Enlighten us please

I've never claimed to have proof that he did or didn't. I personally don't believe he did but I'm damn sure not going to argue from that position when there are actual people who have slept in his bed as children that claim he did.

R. Kelly on the other hand is on tape raping a minor and according to multiple sources, there are multiple tapes.

 

[It is a mystery]

"nobody cares about Weinstein" Weinstein started the whole metoo movement
"Weinstein doesn't have power like this" Thanked more than even Jesus at the Oscars, raped superstars for a decade and nobody could say or do shyt, blaccballed actresses for not fukking w/ him.
"Weinsten has nothing to do with MJ" The Weinstein movie was supposed to be the big expose at its film festival. The MJ movie was added last minute and wasn't originally even supposed to be there.
"We all knew" Covered nowhere in mainstream media, didn't get an oprah episode, etc.


These are some of the WOAT arguments I've ever seen. Surely nobody could believe this nonsense.



also, the MJ doc and the weinstein doc are the ones with the obvious link. R Kelly is on his own and has nothing to do with either of them.