UPDATE: Cartel tried to force siblings to have sex w/each other! BREAKING! Mexican cartel gives public apology for kidnapping & murdering Americans.

[BobbyWojak]

Breaux im even arguing this shyt with you ok its public record.....If you think the US seals went in there at night time and nobody knew about it go ahead....thats not what happened in reality.US doesnt do any of these operations without prior approval and acknowledgement.

It's easier to believe the US flew in on secret helicopters with Halo 3 active camouflage (that they then told us about), than to believe we worked out a deal with the Pakistanis years after Bin Laden's relevancy.

otherwise they wouldn't have used a stealth helo...

they used stealth helicopters

U.S. President Barack Obama, in some of his most blunt remarks to date, said on Monday that Osama bin Laden would have escaped if the United States had sought Pakistan’s permission ahead of the raid on the al Qaeda leader’s compound.

that's not how it happened at all.

Pakistan is bordered by both India and Iran, is there any reality where we don't take a stealth approach? Are you really going to believe what comes out of the president's mouth when it comes to this situation? Occam's razor, he was given up.

Hersh reports that bin Laden had been in Pakistani custody since 2006, and the tip-off to his location came from a former Pakistani intelligence official in August 2010. Senior Pakistani military officers knew of the U.S. raid ahead of time, and the courier story was created to cover the role of the Pakistani informant

What the Snowden Files Say About the Osama Bin Laden Raid

Secret intelligence documents disclosed by Edward Snowden provide context for controversy around the raid that killed Osama Bin Laden in Pakistan in 2011

theintercept.com

 

[Savvir]

You nikkas hate reading...

you said it's "public record"

post source for your point then...

 

[Savvir]

It's easier to believe the US flew in on secret helicopters with Halo 3 active camouflage (that they then told us about), than to believe we worked out a deal with the Pakistanis years after Bin Laden's relevancy.






Pakistan is bordered by both India and Iran, is there any reality where we don't take a stealth approach? Are you really going to believe what comes out of the president's mouth when it comes to this situation? Occam's razor, he was given up.

What the Snowden Files Say About the Osama Bin Laden Raid

Secret intelligence documents disclosed by Edward Snowden provide context for controversy around the raid that killed Osama Bin Laden in Pakistan in 2011

theintercept.com

first paragraph in the article you posted:

Secret documents related to the Abbottabad raid neither prove nor disprove Seymour Hersh’s controversial account but do add context.​

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

now these dudes are posting a conspiracy theory never change...

 

[FaTaL]

In New Book, Barack Obama Recalls Raid That Killed Osama Bin Laden

Barack Obama has said that he had ruled out involving Pakistan in the raid on Osama bin Laden's hideout because it was an "open secret" that certain elements inside Pakistan's military, and especially its intelligence services, maintained links to the Taliban and perhaps even al-Qaeda, sometimes...

www.ndtv.com

The need for secrecy added to the challenge; if even the slightest hint of our lead on bin Laden leaked, we knew our opportunity would be lost. As a result, only a handful of people across the entire federal government were read into the planning phase of the operation, he said.

"We had one other constraint: Whatever option we chose could not involve the Pakistanis," he wrote.

"Although Pakistan's government cooperated with us on a host of counterterrorism operations and provided a vital supply path for our forces in Afghanistan, it was an open secret that certain elements inside the country's military, and especially its intelligence services, maintained links to the Taliban and perhaps even al-Qaeda, sometimes using them as strategic assets to ensure that the Afghan government remained weak and unable to align itself with Pakistan's number one rival, India," Obama revealed.

"The fact that the Abbottabad compound was just a few miles from the Pakistan military's equivalent of West Point only heightened the possibility that anything we told the Pakistanis could end up tipping off our target.

they wouldnt of used stealth choppers if pakistan knew they were coming, remember one of the choppers ended up crashing and the tech landed in russia and chinas hands

 

[Miggs]

It's easier to believe the US flew in on secret helicopters with Halo 3 active camouflage (that they then told us about), than to believe we worked out a deal with the Pakistanis years after Bin Laden's relevancy.






Pakistan is bordered by both India and Iran, is there any reality where we don't take a stealth approach? Are you really going to believe what comes out of the president's mouth when it comes to this situation? Occam's razor, he was given up.

What the Snowden Files Say About the Osama Bin Laden Raid

Secret intelligence documents disclosed by Edward Snowden provide context for controversy around the raid that killed Osama Bin Laden in Pakistan in 2011

theintercept.com

You think Obama wanted to give credit to pakistan when it came to Bin ladens death ? lol

 

[BobbyWojak]

first paragraph in the article you posted:

Secret documents related to the Abbottabad raid neither prove nor disprove Seymour Hersh’s controversial account but do add context.​

That narrative is way more trustworthy than Obama's word

 

[BobbyWojak]

You think Obama wanted to give credit to pakistan when it came to Bin laden death ? lol

Not even credit, it would also be a bad look for Pakistan in their sphere of politics. This was a win-win situation for both parties involved.

 

[Savvir]

That narrative is way more trustworthy than Obama's word

breh... not EVERYTHING said by the government is false...

if you claim something to be false you have to back it up...

the whole article starts off with the findings of the people who posted it...

the actual evidence doesn't prove what you're trying to push as fact

this is in the words of the source you find credible...

you failed...

 

[BrothaZay]

Well this is the Cartel flexing it's muscle and power it has over Mexico (the government and it's citizens) and whatever goes on in the country from little petty crimes to the bloody events that transpired a few days ago. They own the gangs.

Cartel had nothing to do with those four Black people being attacked by a street gang, but see how they exercised their power and made the gang give back the two surviving hostages and sent out an apology letter, that's called flexing muscle .

This has nothing to do with being afraid of the US or any secret money ties y'all conspiring about, it's more to do with keeping the heat off of Mexico, and preventing the US from getting any ideas to further investigate or dig into their business, because the first thing people would assume is that the Cartel had something to do with this situation and the bosses don't want that kind of attention .

When two of the most powerful cartels the world, Medellín Cartel and the Cali Cartel, in Columbia, had fallen, that sent a message to every Cartel since that the best way to avoid exposure is by keeping a low profile and “working” with government authorities to keep things from escalating into a bloodbath.

As we all know, well hopefully we all know that law enforcement/government doesn't really care about drugs being sold as much as they put on to the general public, because it's a never ending operation they know arresting a few people ain't gonna stop the drugs from flowing. It's the bodies that pile up on the streets is what matters most in convicting narco-traffickers and pretty much any kind of street and drug activity.

nikka be fr. Cartel is terrified of USA wrath. It’s not like they’re triads operating across the ocean. They’re a hop skip away and can be blown off the map anytime the USA feels like it.

 

[Miggs]

nikka be fr. Cartel is terrified of USA wrath. It’s not like they’re triads operating across the ocean. They’re a hop skip away and can be blown off the map anytime the USA feels like it.

Then why dont they ?

 

[Nkrumah Was Right]

nikka be fr. Cartel is terrified of USA wrath. It’s not like they’re triads operating across the ocean. They’re a hop skip away and can be blown off the map anytime the USA feels like it.

America is probably fretting about violating Mexico’s sovereignty so brazenly.

Mexico is right next door. The blowback from any military intervention violating Mexico’s sovereignty could be disastrous.

Americans should just be patient and work with Mexican officials to resolve this unfortunate incident.

 

[Bolzmark]

In this hypothetical scenario, is the Mexican government working with the Americans? The same army and government infiltrated by those same cartels?

That would be a 'win' like Iraq and Vietnam, much worse considering we share a border.

'The greatest killing force in the history of the world' we as a people need to stop watching so many movies, shyt is not that simple and has never been.

Is the Mexican government working with the Americans? Does it matter? Maybe you haven’t been paying attention, but when the US wants to roll up in your country their only challenge is creating a bullish!t reason justifying it.

If you think I’m off about this, then explain why a powerful criminal cartel that kills at will and has billions of dollars just apologized and turned over their OWN PEOPLE who actually did it?

Just being nice guys?

 

[Unbothered]

Y'all keep bringing up the US dealings in handling Afghanistan, Al-Qaeda, and ISIS, etc scenarios as if it's the same thing in regards to dealing with a drug cartel .

First of all, the US doesn't view drug cartels in the same manner as terrorists, they would never apply that much pressure on a drug cartel even if they killed a few Americans, the only way the US would intervene that deep is if the Americans killed were important people (US embassy employees, DEA agents, US officials, etc).

Yeah, the US would intervene but not to the extent y'all trying to apply to the situation.

The US would never turn uber patriotic (like they've done in the aftermath of 9/11 and ISIS related situations) and send in troops, drone or missile attacks, etc shyt y'all talking for just any ole simpleton American that happens to get caught up and killed by Cartels and/or their offspring gangs.

Y'all been duped by American patriotism propaganda and military complexion beliefs if the Cartel didn't order the gang to turn themselves in and release the last two hostages, they probably would've been dead already.

 

[BrothaZay]

Then why dont they ?

Because they don’t want to obviously