UPDATE: Cartel tried to force siblings to have sex w/each other! BREAKING! Mexican cartel gives public apology for kidnapping & murdering Americans.

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Then why dont they ?
Because the cartels are a necessary evil. Drugs are an enormous arm of the American economy and somebody has to distribute them:manny:

The US currently has no concrete incentive to Al Queda the cartels. And whenever they do get involved they tend to make things worse. Cartel wars got hyper violent when the US took out Felix Gallardo, who had all of the Mexican cartels united. They took out El Chapo and the violence escalated again

If the US blows the cartels off the map, how will we get our precious drugs?
 

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Why do you keep saying the cartel? There are dozens, CDG is one of the oldest and most entrenched in legit business and politics, they oversee gangs in the US, of course they would cooperate, it's bad for their brand.

The US didn't 'go get' El Chapo, he was cannibalized by the system that created him, rival cartel members in the Mexican government conspired to push a narrative against Guzman.


Cartels are not invincible, but the US doesn't have the power to pick up members at will, even with Mexican cooperation that would be difficult and definitely not over 4 Black citizens who were told not to go to a specific area.

You are salty that 4 Black Americans resulted in a swift response :hhh:


You can't hide your xenophobia.
 

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cartels aren't that powerful and they know it
look at how el salvador rounded up MS 13 and put them in some holocaust style camps

only reason why cartels haven't been banned in Mexico is because the Mexican elite is getting their cut from the drug trade
Didn't know about this :ohhh:
 

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Y'all keep bringing up the US dealings in handling Afghanistan, Al-Qaeda, and ISIS, etc scenarios as if it's the same thing in regards to dealing with a drug cartel 🤣.

First of all, the US doesn't view drug cartels in the same manner as terrorists, they would never apply that much pressure on a drug cartel even if they killed a few Americans, the only way the US would intervene that deep is if the Americans killed were important people (US embassy employees, DEA agents, US officials, etc).

Yeah, the US would intervene but not to the extent y'all trying to apply to the situation.

The US would never turn uber patriotic (like they've done in the aftermath of 9/11 and ISIS related situations) and send in troops, drone or missile attacks, etc shyt y'all talking for just any ole simpleton American that happens to get caught up and killed by Cartels and/or their offspring gangs.

Y'all been duped by American patriotism propaganda and military complexion beliefs 🤷🏾‍♀️ if the Cartel didn't order the gang to turn themselves in and release the last two hostages, they probably would've been dead already.

They have all kinds of secret courts a vague legal wiggle room to do all kinds of unconstitutional shyt.

They could rearrange the legal language to lunch a covert war in Mexico.


 

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No, you couldn’t invade Mexico.

Mexico is much much larger than Iraq/Afghanistan and has 120,000,000 people - many of whom are heavily armed and have relatives in the US who could cause trouble in your cities like LA and Chicago.

If Americans couldn’t pacify smaller, less populated Iraq/Afghanistan- what makes you think you can successfully occupy Mexico?

The hubris!


It would be way easier to occupy Mexico and Canada because they are on the boarder.




 

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cartels aren't that powerful and they know it
look at how el salvador rounded up MS 13 and put them in some holocaust style camps

only reason why cartels haven't been banned in Mexico is because the Mexican elite is getting their cut from the drug trade
El Salvador is a different animal, Mexican cartels have more clout due to location location location
 

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No, you couldn’t invade Mexico.

Mexico is much much larger than Iraq/Afghanistan and has 120,000,000 people - many of whom are heavily armed and have relatives in the US who could cause trouble in your cities like LA and Chicago.

If Americans couldn’t pacify smaller, less populated Iraq/Afghanistan- what makes you think you can successfully occupy Mexico?

The hubris!
Sure they could, logistically it’s easy, soften them up from the air and send in the troops to eliminate whoever is left.


There’s no point in causing this type of chaos on your border though.
 

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Americans really believe your propaganda.

People spoke like you before 2003.

“Iraqis will welcome us a liberators!”

Americans in TLR really expose how little they understand about the world…
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Breh, I'm not an Pax Americana apologist. But taking on raggedy ass narcos is an easier lift than fighting nation states and people who are fighting to defend their homes and families. What are the narcos fighting for? 🤔 Their cause is purely mercenary; a love of money. Iraq 2003 was a bill of goods sold by the neocons to a frightened and enraged American public who just wanted to lash out after 9/11. Still not entirely convinced those guys didn't allow that shyt to happen to justify a foreign misadventure.

Hell, I got called a muzzie sympathizer by the cac yokels in my podunk eastern NC town because I wrote an article in our high school newspaper calling the rationale behind the war bullshyt. As an American, I concede that I consume information in a bubble and I'm not as versed in world affairs as someone from abroad. Being in the shadow of empire will do that. But I do know that guys who fight for love of money and to torture their fellow citizens ain't gonna fight too hard if pressed. Remember, America was initially greeted as liberators by the Iraqis. They thought we were gonna give them that post world War 2 stimulus. Bush and his arrogant neocons bungled the occupation of Iraq because they had their eyes set on Tehran and arrogantly assuming that the occupation was gonna be quick, painless, and cheap.
 

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The cartel that did this realizes this could endanger the health of their organization. The US is looking to Mexico for near sourcing especially items of national interest like lithium. Pemex is already building refineries for lithium and other tech related refinement. For better or worse the relationship with the US will be deeper. China has proven to not be the reliable partner it once was because of the covid19 virus and some questionable moves from Xi.
 

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Let's be real: the Republicans would have an absolute field day with the Democrats for the next 100 years if the U.S attacked Mexican cartels with even a small military force.

They'd want nothing more than for Biden to call in that drone strike so they can take every single last Hispanic vote away from the Democrats for the next century. Not to mention the voters who don't want to go right into another trillion-dollar conflict for decades. This would basically be the Democratic party's Middle East conflict if they retaliated like that.

With that voter base those conservatives would do whatever they wanted because they wouldn't have to cater to anyone else. Imagine all them crazy laws they passing right now in the Red States, but nation-wide.
 
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