Update: NFL upholds Tom Brady 4 Game Suspension

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:dead: Okay breh. Like I said I respect you as a poster, but we all have a blind/soft spots :yeshrug:

How can you still root for such a team if integrity is so important to you? Integrity is integrity. Either it's something you value in totality, at all times or it's not. It's not like a Big Mac where you can get it without the fries and the drink :heh:. I totally get whey Brady is doing what he is doing. I am talking to you guys though and asking ya'll why ya'll are so up in arms over this shyt.

I don't see what's so unclear about this...he's saying he's innocent and willing to stand on that, it's easy to see why an innocent person would want to stand on their innocence.
 

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I don't see what's so unclear about this...he's saying he's innocent and willing to stand on that, it's easy to see why an innocent person would want to stand on their innocence.

I don't see what's so unclear about the fact that I am not talking about him and what he's doing.
 
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I don't see what's so unclear about the fact that I am not talking about him and what he's doing.

That extends to his fans. You're whole position is predicated on the notion that he's guilty (or that we believe he is). Which is why you suggest that we should be mad that even participated in such a frivolous scheme that risked punishment. If he's innocent of course I don't want him to be treated as guilty in football circles, and I'm glad he's standing on it and not trying to sell me some "I'm innocent, but I'm going to accept the punishment so we can move on" narrative.

And then the obvious elephant in the room would also be the implications of him being guilty (i.e. the discussion around the impact it had on the game and his and the Pat's accomplishments).

Those two coupled together and it's pretty easy to see why this all matters.
 

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That extends to his fans. You're whole position is predicated on the notion that he's guilty (or that we believe he is). Which is why you suggest that we should be mad that even participated in such a frivolous scheme that risked punishment. If he's innocent of course I don't want him to be treated as guilty in football circles, and I'm glad he's standing on it and not trying to sell me some "I'm innocent, but I'm going to accept the punishment so we can move on" narrative.

And then the obvious elephant in the room would also be the implications of him being guilty (i.e. the discussion around the impact it had on the game and his and the Pat's accomplishments).

Those two coupled together and it's pretty easy to see why this all matters.

No, it extends to him. Even his coach distanced himself from the shyt. Think about that for a second, ya'll on here going harder for dude than the coach who's legacy he's helped to fortify. But yeah, I am sure it's all just pure fabrication because the league hates Tom and the Pats :comeon:. That said, I still don't knock HIM for fighting it.

Like I said in my first post, the great majority of the media is saying he's guilty AND that's it's no big deal and he's still GOAT or close to it. I haven't heard one person say that this tarnishes his legacy or takes away from the last 15 years of greatness. He will be treated like a conquering hero when he comes back and beasts. Beyond that, the squad has already been guilty of something and people didn't stop sucking them off and you with your concerns about integrity didn't even stop cheering for them. You got 4 banners and another top 2 seed guaranteed this year. Ask around and see how many fans or orgs or shyt starting QBs wouldn't trade 4 games for the starting QB for that.
 
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No, it extends to him. Even his coach distanced himself from the shyt. Think about that for a second, ya'll on here going harder for dude than the coach who's legacy he's helped to fortify. But yeah, I am sure it's all just pure fabrication because the league hates Tom and the Pats :comeon:. That said, I still don't knock HIM for fighting it.

Like I said in my first post, the great majority of the media is saying he's guilty AND that's it's no big deal and he's still GOAT or close to it. I haven't heard one person say that this tarnishes his legacy or takes away from the last 15 years of greatness. He will be treated like a conquering hero when he comes back and beasts. Beyond that, the squad has already been guilty of something and people didn't stop sucking them off and you with your concerns about integrity didn't even stop cheering for them. You got 4 banners and another top 2 seed guaranteed this year. Ask around and see how many fans or orgs or shyt starting QBs wouldn't trade 4 games for the starting QB for that.

I don't know how else to explain it. :manny:
 

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Or I could start with those that don't. It's pretty obvious, but if you can't see it, that's your problem.

I don't have a problem and the thing is I don't think you guys do either, that's my whole point. But hey agree to disagree :yeshrug:.
 

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Does it really matter? It's only 4 games.
Brady still gets paid. The reason the other teams don't care is because it gives them a better chance of winning against the Patriots when he's not playing, and for the other teams that aren't playing the Pats, it helps their stats if the Pats lose.
It's a NFL vs. Patriots thing, not an NFL vs. Tom Brady.
 

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I don't see what's so unclear about this...he's saying he's innocent and willing to stand on that, it's easy to see why an innocent person would want to stand on their innocence.
So if Charles Manson says he's innocent we should believe and blindly defend him? :russ:

I don't know how much clearer it needs to be for you clowns to admit Brady is a liar and a cheater...Dude destroyed his phone when he was asked for specific texts...can you dumb fukks at least admit that is shady?

If this was me or you being tried on the same evidence they'd throw the fukking book at us...Dude go lucky to only get 4 games for all of this...
 
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