US arrests Maduro in his own country! Indicted in New York City court!! What the hell is going on!?

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This is how empires remain in power. This is how you push China back. This is how you keep China as a worker.

I don’t even agree with this, but this was done as a move against China. This was done to push America a little further out of Chinas reach..


:manny:
So if Trump decides to assassinate Traore just like Hillary did Gaddafi to further US interests are you going to clap for him? :patrice:
 

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This administration should be brought up on war crimes or something.

You can't just attack another country that has committed no hostile acts against America and kidnap their leader.

It's not about defending Maduro. Eff that guy. But this is blatantly crossing a line
By whom.
China will take Taïwan within 2 years in the same manner.
Israël?
Russia?
UK, Germany? They will gladly take Venezuela oil at a discount.

This can only be handled internally. This is grounds for impeachment and immédiate removal from office.
 

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It's the "elite"..... They don't want to lose power ever, at all..... They will use the military to keep it.
I'm sure the oil companies will have free reign in Venezuela now.
using your tax dollars to invade countries so oil companies can make money. same oil companies get tax cuts you and you see no benefits from it.
 

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Maduro is NOT someone to cape.for.

The issue at this point is US using GTA cheat codes to do what they want, and play in peoples faces with the storyline.
True but the thing about this is that the US has been interfering with South American politics ever since the people started backing leftists. The reason why it is so destabilize down there is because of the forced regime changes by the US because they are scared that capitalism will falter.
Regular CACs see nothing wrong with this because their God complex makes them still believe in the white man's burden
whitemansburden.jpg
 
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Every known major empire in history killed itself from lack of modernization, and/or costly military forays it couldn't afford. These war fantasies are typically executed by a leader desperate to hold on to power by galvanizing the populace against a fabricated external threat.


The battle with China has already been lost. China owns the places raw materials come from, the plants that process them, the factories that build the finished products, and the boats that send them to the US.

You cant muscle the dealer when youre the fiend.


This American big dog. We ain’t going no where. Not only is the empire being modernized, we define what modern is. We decide who becomes modern. We’ll turn you back to the stone ages, or keep you in the dark. We’re experts at it.

China owns the places the raw materials come from? Then why do they go all over Africa stealing property, resources, governments through bad loans? Even in their own country, do you think America doesn’t have these resources, or is it that we have chosen not to tear our country up to extract these resources to the extent they have? China soent all that money in Africa and we just fukked up the cobalt game for them.

Your understanding of China vs America is all wrong. Saying America is a fiend to China. When China cannot function without the American economy. Our prices would rise without them, there economy would collapse without us. Chinas military is a copy of ours, not their own.

American is the ONLY economy in the world that spends in excess. It’s the reason why China has risen the way it has. It’s not our debt. They can’t use our debt against us. They know that. They depend on us shopping in surplus the way we do.

There is a race beween us and them.

Can they avoid dealing out bad loans? If they can, they will continue to build other countries up, leading to the replacement of the us economy. They won’t need our trade or $$$. This will take decades.

Can America cut off enough supply to China? Can they further develop their partnerships to mantain world dominance? This could be done within 12 years with the right President in office next election. Then you look at further moving manufacturing to developing nations. Couple decades for that. We wouldn’t need them.


It’s either those options or war. The beef still simmering right now, and we on they ass pretty heavy.

This move further helps America and keeps China at bay. We already run Syria and Isreal is going to run Iran soon.

China ain’t talking about shyt.


I don’t support Trump. I don’t support this strike. I think we should have made a deal with them through lifting sanctions. Could have gotten a fair election and oil deals favorable towards America through taking the sanctions away.

That would have hurt China just as much. Just would have taken longer..


China was spending all that money in Guyana, but why didn’t they tell Mudaro to fallback on his annexation of Essequibo?


Makes you wonder
 

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Every known major empire in history killed itself from lack of modernization, and/or costly military forays it couldn't afford. These war fantasies are typically executed by a leader desperate to hold on to power by galvanizing the populace against a fabricated external threat.


The battle with China has already been lost. China owns the places raw materials come from, the plants that process them, the factories that build the finished products, and the boats that send them to the US.

You cant muscle the dealer when youre the fiend.
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This is how empires remain in power. This is how you push China back. This is how you keep China as a worker.

I don’t even agree with this, but this was done as a move against China. This was done to push America a little further out of Chinas reach..


:manny:

isn't china movin to other sources of energy and don't they have other oil partners in Africa and the middle east?
 

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True but the thing about this is that the US has been interfering with South American politics ever since the people started backing leftists. The reason why it is so disabled down there is because of the forced regime changes by the US because they are scared that capitalism will falter.
Regular CACs see nothing wrong with this because their God complex makes them still believe in the white man's burden
whitemansburden.jpg

Ultimately the question is who gets to Play God if anyone.

Maduro is scum and democracy clearly doesnt work there with the fake elections. So do the locals just deal with it or stage a coup? And is a coup possible without outside backing?

The issue with the USA is more so the morality arguments and fake storylines. If the USA backed an opposition and just did a Ukraine type proxy thing would it be more digestible?

But also of your ops are having a party next door do you just let it ride?

Ultimately shyt like this is why we are Coli posters and not leading nations and militaries
 

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True but the thing about this is that the US has been interfering with South American politics ever since the people started backing leftists. The reason why it is so disabled down there is because of the forced regime changes by the US because they are scared that capitalism will falter.
Regular CACs see nothing wrong with this because their God complex makes them still believe in the white man's burden
whitemansburden.jpg

White Man's Burden is another supremacist myth they spread.

These people are lying scammers and thieves that have made everyone theyre leeching off of to think they need them when its the other way around.

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This American big dog. We ain’t going no where. Not only is the empire being modernized, we define what modern is. We decide who becomes modern. We’ll turn you back to the stone ages, or keep you in the dark. We’re experts at it.

China owns the places the raw materials come from? Then why do they go all over Africa stealing property, resources, governments through bad loans? Even in their own country, do you think America doesn’t have these resources, or is it that we have chosen not to tear our country up to extract these resources to the extent they have? China soent all that money in Africa and we just fukked up the cobalt game for them.

Your understanding of China vs America is all wrong. Saying America is a fiend to China. When China cannot function without the American economy. Our prices would rise without them, there economy would collapse without us. Chinas military is a copy of ours, not their own.

American is the ONLY economy in the world that spends in excess. It’s the reason why China has risen the way it has. It’s not our debt. They can’t use our debt against us. They know that. They depend on us shopping in surplus the way we do.

There is a race beween us and them.

Can they avoid dealing out bad loans? If they can, they will continue to build other countries up, leading to the replacement of the us economy. They won’t need our trade or $$$. This will take decades.

Can America cut off enough supply to China? Can they further develop their partnerships to mantain world dominance? This could be done within 12 years with the right President in office next election. Then you look at further moving manufacturing to developing nations. Couple decades for that. We wouldn’t need them.


It’s either those options or war. The beef still simmering right now, and we on they ass pretty heavy.

This move further helps America and keeps China at bay. We already run Syria and Isreal is going to run Iran soon.

China ain’t talking about shyt.


I don’t support Trump. I don’t support this strike. I think we should have made a deal with them through lifting sanctions. Could have gotten a fair election and oil deals favorable towards America through taking the sanctions away.

That would have hurt China just as much. Just would have taken longer..


China was spending all that money in Guyana, but why didn’t they tell Mudaro to fallback on his annexation of Essequibo?

if we have those resources already then why are we trying to make canada the 51st state and acquire greenland? :patrice:
 

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This American big dog. We ain’t going no where. Not only is the empire being modernized, we define what modern is. We decide who becomes modern. We’ll turn you back to the stone ages, or keep you in the dark. We’re experts at it.

China owns the places the raw materials come from? Then why do they go all over Africa stealing property, resources, governments through bad loans? Even in their own country, do you think America doesn’t have these resources, or is it that we have chosen not to tear our country up to extract these resources to the extent they have? China soent all that money in Africa and we just fukked up the cobalt game for them.

Your understanding of China vs America is all wrong. Saying America is a fiend to China. When China cannot function without the American economy. Our prices would rise without them, there economy would collapse without us. Chinas military is a copy of ours, not their own.

American is the ONLY economy in the world that spends in excess. It’s the reason why China has risen the way it has. It’s not our debt. They can’t use our debt against us. They know that. They depend on us shopping in surplus the way we do.

There is a race beween us and them.

Can they avoid dealing out bad loans? If they can, they will continue to build other countries up, leading to the replacement of the us economy. They won’t need our trade or $$$. This will take decades.

Can America cut off enough supply to China? Can they further develop their partnerships to mantain world dominance? This could be done within 12 years with the right President in office next election. Then you look at further moving manufacturing to developing nations. Couple decades for that. We wouldn’t need them.


It’s either those options or war. The beef still simmering right now, and we on they ass pretty heavy.

This move further helps America and keeps China at bay. We already run Syria and Isreal is going to run Iran soon.

China ain’t talking about shyt.


I don’t support Trump. I don’t support this strike. I think we should have made a deal with them through lifting sanctions. Could have gotten a fair election and oil deals favorable towards America through taking the sanctions away.

That would have hurt China just as much. Just would have taken longer..


China was spending all that money in Guyana, but why didn’t they tell Mudaro to fallback on his annexation of Essequibo?


Makes you wonder

We aint going no where?
Rome said that
Britain said that
Spain said that
Mongols said that
Egypt said that

One truth of history is every single Empire has fallen. Your hubris about "the power of America" as if its some unique entity when its only been running the world for a century is disturbing.

China's finesse of Africa is how they are taking control of the raw materials, whete do you think they got that colonize playbook from? You say they cant survive without the American economy but we were the ones that came back to the table to negotiate after they did clap back tariffs that effed up the economy for many Americans. Many US farmers primary buyer is China, when the Tarrifs came they just started buying from South America. Most American sold, Chinese made products got unaffordable when the Tariffs started. The inflation shock is partially because Chinese made products became much more expensive.

You say we define modern when BYD is leading the global car market in EVs for every country except America (it would be here too without Tariffs) and Deep Seek had wall street fuked up. The drones we send Ukraine are Chinese made.

You said war is an option? It aint unless its by proxy. Both America and China are too big to conquer. It would bankrupt any country that tried to subdue either one without using Nukes.
China figured out that you dont have to fight America directly if you can start owning critical materials and logistics columns. Theyve used America businessmen's greed to steal IP and reverse engineer our products.

Something else to think about:
Xi doesnt have to ask anyone anything when he wants to pivot. He just does it. They have a stable (albeit despotic) leadership that doesnt have to think about finessing the populace and checking with a congress every 2-4 years. They can ramp something up in 6 months that would take us 3 years (datacenter infrastructure is a good example).

When we were losing our shirt in Afghanistan (where empires go to die) and Iraq they were at 10% GDP growth year over year and building a space program. China has a rover on Mars and a space station floating above the planet right now. This isnt some backwater dictatorship.

American exceptionalism is a propaganda concept supported by a hegemonic military industrial complex. It isnt real.
 
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