US arrests Maduro in his own country! Indicted in New York City court!! What the hell is going on!?

Admiral Ackbar

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So glad we didn't elect the War Hawk Harris. Things are so peaceful now. :wow: Jobs everywhere. :wow: Life is incredible. :wow:

Sarcasm aside Vietnam was never officially declared either. It was a 'conflict'. We saw how that turned out.
Blew my mind when I learned that a lot of countries call it the American War and we call it the Vietnam War.
 

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China's finesse of Africa is how they are taking control of the raw materials, whete do you think they got that colonize playbook from? You say they cant survive without the American economy but we were the ones that came back to the table to negotiate after they did clap back tariffs that effed up the economy for many Americans. Many US farmers primary buyer is China, when the Tarrifs came they just started buying from South America. Most American sold, Chinese made products got unaffordable when the Tariffs started. The inflation shock is partially because Chinese made products became much more expensive.

You say we define modern when BYD is leading the global car market in EVs for every country except America (it would be here too without Tariffs) and Deep Seek had wall street fuked up. The drones we send Ukraine are Chinese made.

You said war is an option? It aint unless its by proxy. Both America and China are too big to conquer. It would bankrupt any country that tried to subdue either one without using Nukes.
China figured out that you dont have to fight America directly if you can start owning critical materials and logistics columns. Theyve used America businessmen's greed to steal IP and reverse engineer our products.

Something else to think about:
Xi doesnt have to ask anyone anything when he wants to pivot. He just does it. They have a stable (albeit despotic) leadership that doesnt have to think about finessing the populace and checking with a congress every 2-4 years. They can ramp something up in 6 months that would take us 3 years (datacenter infrastructure is a good example).

When we were losing our shirt in Afghanistan (where empires go to die) and Iraq they were at 10% GDP growth year over year and building a space program. China has a rover on Mars and a space station floating above the planet right now. This isnt some backwater dictatorship.

American exceptionalism is a propaganda concept supported by a hegemonic military industrial complex. It isnt real.



All your doing is repeating headlines. From BYD to Deepseek.

Even the 10% GDP you reference. All you’re doing is repeating headlines. You do not have a real understanding of what you’re saying. That’s why your saying it.

There is NO OTHER COUNTRY in the world that believes China had that type of growth. At one point China came out and said their economy was 20% bigger than what they had been reporting. Just making shyt up.

Did you know that way before Trump stopped reporting economy numbers China stopped to? Did you know China stopped releasing youth unemployment numbers because it got so bad?


So China had record growth, 10% GDP growth. Then deflation?


China has been pointed out all year for their currency manipulation. Not just by America . It’s the reason their exports are so big. They cheapening their own money in for larger export returns.
 

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I'm more concerned with the country turning into Libya.


Why? The person who won the Noble Peace Prize and is the leader of the opposition party will be given the presidency.


I’m sure we’ll be reading about how Venezuelans helped capture Maduro soon enough. Yall are just imagining things with no context.
 

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Why? The person who won the Noble Peace Prize and is the leader of the opposition party will be given the presidency.


I’m sure we’ll be reading about how Venezuelans helped capture Maduro soon enough. Yall are just imagining things with no context.
Trump just said she will not be given the presidency. He said she has no respect within the country and isn't fit to lead
 

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Why? The person who won the Noble Peace Prize and is the leader of the opposition party will be given the presidency.


I’m sure we’ll be reading about how Venezuelans helped capture Maduro soon enough. Yall are just imagining things with no context.

There are no good options here. Replacing Maduro with this chick is like replacing Trump with Peter Thiel. Dictator for an oligarch. Instead of his corrupt cronies it will be her corrupt cronies.
 

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Every known major empire in history killed itself from lack of modernization, and/or costly military forays it couldn't afford. These war fantasies are typically executed by a leader desperate to hold on to power by galvanizing the populace against a fabricated external threat.


The battle with China has already been lost. China owns the places raw materials come from, the plants that process them, the factories that build the finished products, and the boats that send them to the US.

You cant muscle the dealer when youre the fiend.
Already lost? Not even close. China faces real structural constraints right now… including an aging population, high levels of debt, strict capital controls, environmental degradation, and heavy reliance on foreign energy and export markets. These factors limit its long term flexibility and make sustained dominance more difficult af.

The claim that China owns everything that matters is absolutely false. China controls scale… especially in manufacturing and processing.. but it does not control the most valuable choke points in the global system. US and our allies continue to dominate advanced semiconductors, global financial systems and capital markets, critical software ecosystems, intellectual property and technical standards, and reserve currency status. In modern power dynamics, control of bottlenecks and high leverage nodes matters more than sheer production volume.

The addiction metaphor also oversimplifies the relationship. It frames the US as powerless, when in reality the dependence runs both ways. China depends on U.S. consumption, access to advanced technology, and a stable global trade system just as much as the U.S. depends on Chinese manufacturing. That mutual dependence creates leverage on both sides.
 
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