US/IAEA reach Nuclear Deal With Iran

[#StarkSet]

so when there is another big terrorist attack and we find out Iran had a hand in it, what happens then?

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Netanyahu

Likud party

Republicans

Napoleon

Iranian conservatives

Its not much we can do

Iran doesn't want to be nailed with an international military response.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Well said @FAH1223

But seriously fukk the west saying a country cant do whatever they want with their materials.

Pot calling kettle black eh?

fukk that.

Nukes aren't fukking candy.

You don't get one just because you fukking want one.

I HOPE the USA does everything possible to drop any human in Iran working on making a weapon.

You're literally asking for every nation in that region to gain nukes....and these are nations in need of regime change and reform.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

China, Russia, and Iran are the big winners.

Ayatollah Khamenei knows that the US will never let sanctions go. Especially with the things about Iran that Congress consistently yaps about such as "not being a democracy", "supporting Hezbollah/terrorism", and just not bowing down.

Iran would have to completely surrender many of its national tools. The Pasadran has to go as well as the Velayet of Fiqh, leaving the French model presidential system. Privatization of the oil industry and full access to its markets is also necessary.
Iran can continue to be anti-Israeli in words only, the same way Saudi and the Gulf are anti-Israel. But they will not be allowed control their economy if they were to bow to the requests of Congress. Obama will definitely veto legislation in October that will block this deal.

Now the Chinese and the Russians have been pushing for these talks since the beginning. They want Iran to show the world that it has curtailed its program. All they need is an agreement which they now have and then they can start to pull Iran into their alliance after UN sanctions on nuclear proliferation are lifted. Iran will be admitted into the Shanghai Cooperation Organization with China and Russia having the Iranian's back.
Meaning they will ignore all sanctions and actively oppose the remaining sanctions while beefing up Iran's military.

Iran can then in 10 years restart its nuclear weapons program with no fear of Israeli or US interference.
It will be like India and Pakistan, the US and EU will put new sanctions and make angry faces , none of which will hurt Iran which has shielded itself from further economic blackmail.



By agreeing to a deal the Israelis are right to be pissed off...because you acknowledge the independence and the middle power status to Iran in the future. They will effectively be the regional power that can honestly keep the Israelis shook.

These brain dead Arab countries could never think of negotiating like this. Arabs do not understand the legalistic tradition of the West which is heavily influenced by a multitude of traditions. While the Iranians have a much more intricate and byzantine culture of intrigue and subterfuge are able to play the negotiation game even better than the west because its part of their culture.
The refusal of the US to honor agreements and continued US sanctions will be ignored by them, and they will in future have the economic and political support and even military support to remain independent.

Iran is a crucial part of China's Silk Road Strategy.

Iran needs to drop everything.

This deal was going to happen anyways...but I do not trust them. Not at all. I don't trust them more than the Saudis not to pursue a fukking nuke.

You're an absolute piece of shyt if you want a nuclear Saudi Arabia.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

No they're thrilled

The have achieved their objective of getting rid of UN Sanctions

This opens up a lot of things

You're an absolute fool if you don't think Iran won't pursue a nuke. Its fukking madness and Iran is a place that needs massive regime change and redirection. Their current way of doing things is not productive.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

This deal seems horrible for the US.

Was watching the live meeting on it on CSPAN and the details of it seem awful. Instead of 24 hour notice to check, it'd take inspectors 24 days and requires Russian and Chinese oversight..mid-negotiations Russia stepped in and Iran expressly said that they plan on arming Hezbollah and others which helped cause the multiple recent delays and Kerry was cool with backing down on 24 hrs anyway. Also, it was argued that it shifted burdens on inspections from the tech guys towards the bureaucratic system. General Hayden also criticized the skills of the IAEA and they seemed to be legit talking points. FWIW, Hayden served in Bush and Obama's administrations.

I c/s peace and negotiations in general but it doesnt seem like this turned out to be all that favorable or even fair to both sides tbh.

You have to remember that Russia and China are dealing with islamic fukkery on their borders too.

They damn sure aren't trying to let the Saudis even look at uranium.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Feels so fukking frustrating that the ONLY other option is hammering Natanz with Tomahawks

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Iran can then in 10 years restart its nuclear weapons program with no fear of Israeli or US interference.
It will be like India and Pakistan, the US and EU will put new sanctions and make angry faces , none of which will hurt Iran which has shielded itself from further economic blackmail.



By agreeing to a deal the Israelis are right to be pissed off...because you acknowledge the independence and the middle power status to Iran in the future. They will effectively be the regional power that can honestly keep the Israelis shook.

These brain dead Arab countries could never think of negotiating like this. Arabs do not understand the legalistic tradition of the West which is heavily influenced by a multitude of traditions. While the Iranians have a much more intricate and byzantine culture of intrigue and subterfuge are able to play the negotiation game even better than the west because its part of their culture.
The refusal of the US to honor agreements and continued US sanctions will be ignored by them, and they will in future have the economic and political support and even military support to remain independent.

Iran is a crucial part of China's Silk Road Strategy.

Precisely why I don't trust these motherfukkers.

The Iranians are liars. They cheat. And they are NOT our friends geopolitically. Any so called American shouldn't even blink an eye at pretending to enjoy making this deal.

Thus its a reluctant choice...push them towards breakout...or push them towards breakout?

Iran needs to continually be disuaded from even so much as dreaming of owning a nuke and be prepared to pay the ultimate price to do so.

I have no problems with suggesting that a military option is the appropriate measure if Iran violates this agreement.

 

[dtownreppin214]

he's here.

 

[I.AM.PIFF]

he's here.

Honestly, can't we do something? I'm tired of seeing him repeate the same shyt in every thread

 

[nineteeneightysix]

I support Israel's right to exist, but I think their propaganda towards Iran is a little DELUSIONAL...

There is just NO WAY that Iran would launch a nuclear attack on Israel...A nuclear detonation in Israel will affect Palestine, Jordan, Egypt, Lebanon, Syria and etc...Such an attack will cause the ENTIRE world to attack Iran...Even Russia and China WILL NOT actively defend Iran...

It just wouldn't make sense for Iran to detonate a nuclear weapon in Israel...So, the fear mongering is boolshyt...

Israel doesn't want Iran to have nuclear weapons because it will make the Israeli army less potent, and force Israel to be more diplomatic...

Israel only survives because of the USA and they have the better weapons in that region...If Iran were to get a nuclear weapon, Israel loses all its power overnight...Suddenly, they will have to think 10 times before engaging their neighbors in arm combat...

If you are a Leader of a country, you SHOULD BE trying to get a nuclear weapon, it is NOT coincidence, countries with nuclear weapons DON'T get invaded...

 

[dtownreppin214]

Honestly, can't we do something? I'm tired of seeing him repeate the same shyt in every thread

he might have a point. this picture worries me.

 

[I.AM.PIFF]

he might have a point. this picture worries me.

People can't laugh now?

 

[notPsychosiz]

You're an absolute fool if you don't think Iran won't pursue a nuke. Its fukking madness and Iran is a place that needs massive regime change and redirection. Their current way of doing things is not productive.

You keep calling for regime change, but on what grounds? That you don't agree with them?
At least 239 people negged you.

Does that mean a puppet sibling or coworker we select should kill you, declare ownership of your computer and take over posting your account?
Thats how you want things to work?

Terms like 'regime change' are just western calls for terrorism.
When you are trying to overthrow an elected leader of a foreign country you are either A) sparking a war of aggression (if state sponsored) or B) conducting terrorism (if acting without the state).

In either scenereo, if your kids come home in flag drapped caskets you deserve what you get.

 

[the cac mamba]

Following reports of a deal, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was quoted as saying that Iran would receive a "sure path to nuclear weapons" and "a cash bonanza of hundreds of billions of dollars".