US jobless claims soar to record 3.3 million in one week as layoffs jump

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Trump got his people praying for a miracle then, cause by all reports this is on our ass until year end.

Roll on that vaccine.

Nope, they know this crisis and the economy is out of our control at this point. It's too late to save anything. Their plan is to let Trump be Trump and continue with the Trumpian way that's gotten through everything: lie, deflect and smear. Incapable of patient or effective leadership, only capable of being a childish bully. He'll run cheap smear campaigns on Democrat governors, Nancy Pelosi and China. Deflect blame for the crisis response on each state's own medical supply records and turn it into a political spat he can tweet about with catchphrases and nicknames, even as we fall way behind in testing, people die and our numbers rise above Italy's.

And then rally Americans around some borderline hate movement towards Chinese over the virus.

But they know actually saving us from this virus with effective, long-term leadership is out the question with this guy. They got a bully their way through while not doing a damn thing like always.

The miracle will be if November rolls around, cases are still surging, thousands are still waiting to die, Trump is patting himself on the back, shouting insults and politicizing the issue instead of doing a damn thing and enough Americans still believe Trump is master negotiator businessman President who loves America more than liberals, re-electing him. At that point I'll just give up with politics.
 
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then they should be able to go to a public option.

I’m all about supporting ppl when they’re down, ive donated food and baby materials already for black families.

but Idk why I should be forced off my health plan bc of what happened. With the public option they’re covered

In the middle of this crisis millions of people just lost their insurance. In order to be added to a public option they would have to file paperwork and have that processed. How long would that take with millions of claims being filed. How long of a delay would there be between loss of employer coverage and the start of the government coverage? Biden's plan mentioned a buy in at one of the debates, if that is part of the plan people might not be able to afford to sign up for a public option with a loss of income and other expenses. Once you are covered if your doctor that was in network with your employer plan doesn't accept the public option you have to find a new provider.

Under Medicare for all everyone would be covered regardless of circumstances. If you lose your job literally nothing changes in your coverage. It provides a level of stability that is needed in a time of crisis and uncertainty.
 

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In the middle of this crisis millions of people just lost their insurance. In order to be added to a public option they would have to file paperwork and have that processed. How long would that take with millions of claims being filed. How long of a delay would there be between loss of employer coverage and the start of the government coverage? Biden's plan mentioned a buy in at one of the debates, if that is part of the plan people might not be able to afford to sign up for a public option with a loss of income and other expenses. Once you are covered if your doctor that was in network with your employer plan doesn't accept the public option you have to find a new provider.

Under Medicare for all everyone would be covered regardless of circumstances. If you lose your job literally nothing changes in your coverage. It provides a level of stability that is needed in a time of crisis and uncertainty.

No, youre automatically enrolled once you visit the doctor. It's an auto-enroll process you dont even have to do it yourself, the hospital does it for you. And this applies whether you just lost a job or just dont have any coverage.

You visit the doctor, if you don't have insurance and your income is at a certain level, you're enrolled in the public option right then and there.


"2.5 million people currently ineligible for either Medicaid or private insurance subsidies because their states have chosen not to expand Medicaid would be automatically enrolled in Biden's public option, at no cost to them or the states where they live. Also included automatically in the public option would be another 2 million people with low incomes who currently are eligible for ACA coverage subsidies – and who would also be eligible for expanded Medicaid."
 

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Leftist still exploiting this crisis to push their agenda?:francis:

fukk yeah, you damn right we are. Cannot wait for consecutive months of historic job losses to grace headlines on top of shocking images of body bags getting line up and thrown in trucks all up into November.

You Trump supporters can fall back with the phony moral outrage. Trump spent this whole Presidency throwing darts on a map and exploiting every worldwide "crisis" out there from the southern border, to North Korea, to Iran, just to put down "the previous administration" and boost his own self image.

Where were you when Trump exploited the oval office, declared a BS national emergency over illegal immigrants and then deliberately shutdown the federal government and kept millions from receiving their own paychecks for months, all because Trump wanted to circumvent Congress for his damn wall. :francis:

Y'all took objectively legitimate concerns of our national security, of foreign policy, and the integrity of our elections, and instead of allowing for fair investigations and action for the good of the country y'all "free thinkers" followed big zaddy Trump's lead in exploiting it into "support President Trump" bullshyt even when it meant embracing Vladimir Putin-approved "deep state" conspiracies designed to turn the public against our own intelligence communities. All to save Trump's poor image and push his agenda. Even when it meant sitting back like cowards and letting him wipe his ass with the same Consitution you stalwart libertarians pretend to worship.:francis:

Instead of being damn President this man held rallies on a weekly basis where all he does is take serious issues..including the coronavirus...and--with complete denial of the truth--exploits it into "us vs. them" narratives to try and turn people against his political opponents and boost his own interests. I don't recall you showing any concern at all about politicians "exploiting" crisis' to push agendas then. :francis:

The man got his ass impeached trying to exploit a war in Ukraine to get dirt on Joe Biden. I sure hope you werent one of those "independents" downplaying the need to impeach him, being you have such low regard for politicians who exploit human tragedies for their own agendas :francis:


Exploiting shyt he either took from someone else ("ThE LoWeSt UnEmPLyMENt EVAR!!! ALL MEE!!") or shyt that everyone else has the intelligence or human decency to never use for personal gain is Trump's autobiography and the story of his whole failed Presidency.

All that virtual high fiving, LOLing, and chest bumping yall independents was on when it was Trump exploiting every issue out there to "own libs" for aport. A freefalling economy thanks to Trump's objectively botched up, negligent actions got yall scared af so now let's demand respect and decency, especially from you despicable lefties. :mjlol:

Typical Republican cowards. God don't like ugly. Karma's a bytch and Trump about to get all that work for this shyt once those job numbers start coming out. So will his dumb supporters. When the unemployment rate reaches a record high under Trump I will be all over the place "exploiting" the shyt making sure you MAGA clowns never live it down and voters are swayed to a President Joe Biden. Yeah, that's me pushing an agenda. fukk y'all and fukk Trump. Yall decided that "owning libs" was more important than protecting this country or its people and reveled in all the arrogant fukkery that led us here. The time to put politics aside and have respectful discourse for the good of our nation's safety came and went a loooooooooooong time ago. Hold this L breh. Yall "black independents" showin all types of your asses this week. :russ:
 

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No, youre automatically enrolled once you visit the doctor. It's an auto-enroll process you dont even have to do it yourself, the hospital does it for you. And this applies whether you just lost a job or just dont have any coverage.

You visit the doctor, if you don't have insurance and your income is at a certain level, you're enrolled in the public option right then and there.


"2.5 million people currently ineligible for either Medicaid or private insurance subsidies because their states have chosen not to expand Medicaid would be automatically enrolled in Biden's public option, at no cost to them or the states where they live. Also included automatically in the public option would be another 2 million people with low incomes who currently are eligible for ACA coverage subsidies – and who would also be eligible for expanded Medicaid."

Right now you have to be nearly dead to be able to see a doctor in some states. Those states are overwhelmed with patients infected with Covid 19. How would they have time to enroll patients into a new healthcare plan and check their income level while dealing with treating patients.

A question about these claims you're making, Biden said that his plan would allow 97% of people in the country to be covered. If people under a certain income level are automatically enrolled and eligible then why would 3% of the country or 9.9 million people not be covered with his plan?
 

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Leftist still exploiting this crisis to push their agenda?:francis:

Btw, how's that free market right wing capitalism and anti-globalism agenda going for us now. :mjlol:

US now has worst case of pandemic since it started and Trump out here signing unprecedented bail out packages across the board and getting off phone calls "begging" (Trump's favorite sociopathic sight) the same Xi Xin Ping and EU he spent all 4 years shytting on to help. :mjlol:

Xi probably got off that sorry phone call with his country recovering while we're burning like ":russ: now trade war this you fat fukk."

Trump leaving behind a mess that's gonna make 2008 look like child's play. Of course now us Democrats gotta come in like adults and clean up you kids' mess....again :stopitslime:

Sometimes I wonder if right wingers just enjoy looking dumb. How many times do yall have to be on the wrong side of history before it gets old. :hhh:

When the dust settles from this pandemic a whooooole lot of Americans working from home while waiting for government checks are gonna come away rethinking everything they've been told about "socialism," "big government," universal health care, their ability to demand a greater work-life balance from their government and these greedy corporations; and your failed ideology is gonna be sent to the bowels of political discourse where it belongs.

Its Fridays like this that make me proud to be a liberal. Period. fukk this new age "we can be conservative too" woke shyt. Aint nothing black or even intelligent about conservatism.
 
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Right now you have to be nearly dead to be able to see a doctor in some states. Those states are overwhelmed with patients infected with Covid 19. How would they have time to enroll patients into a new healthcare plan and check their income level while dealing with treating patients.

A question about these claims you're making, Biden said that his plan would allow 97% of people in the country to be covered. If people under a certain income level are automatically enrolled and eligible then why would 3% of the country or 9.9 million people not be covered with his plan?


There’s a percentage of this country who choose not to have insurance at all. Typically individuals making well over 55k. And that’s their choice to do so. Just like some people choose not to have cars.

that’s why when Bernie says so so millions of ppl don’t have healthcare insurance, I kind of chuckle. There’s millions in America who don’t want health insurance and/or pay a shyt ton of taxes for it. Bernie plays dumb and includes them in his numbers. My cousin being one. He did the math and paying out of pocket is cheaper for him bc he’s young and healthy.

it’s a huge risk, but it’s a risk they have the right to take.
 

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fukk yeah, you damn right we are. Cannot wait for consecutive months of historic job losses to grace headlines on top of shocking images of body bags getting line up and thrown in trucks all up into November.

You Trump supporters can fall back with the phony moral outrage. Trump spent this whole Presidency throwing darts on a map and exploiting every worldwide "crisis" out there from the southern border, to North Korea, to Iran, just to put down "the previous administration" and boost his own self image.

Where were you when Trump exploited the oval office, declared a BS national emergency over illegal immigrants and then deliberately shutdown the federal government and kept millions from receiving their own paychecks for months, all because Trump wanted to circumvent Congress for his damn wall. :francis:

Y'all took objectively legitimate concerns of our national security, of foreign policy, and the integrity of our elections, and instead of allowing for fair investigations and action for the good of the country y'all "free thinkers" followed big zaddy Trump's lead in exploiting it into "support President Trump" bullshyt even when it meant embracing Vladimir Putin-approved "deep state" conspiracies designed to turn the public against our own intelligence communities. All to save Trump's poor image and push his agenda. Even when it meant sitting back like cowards and letting him wipe his ass with the same Consitution you stalwart libertarians pretend to worship.:francis:

Instead of being damn President this man held rallies on a weekly basis where all he does is take serious issues..including the coronavirus...and--with complete denial of the truth--exploits it into "us vs. them" narratives to try and turn people against his political opponents and boost his own interests. I don't recall you showing any concern at all about politicians "exploiting" crisis' to push agendas then. :francis:

The man got his ass impeached trying to exploit a war in Ukraine to get dirt on Joe Biden. I sure hope you werent one of those "independents" downplaying the need to impeach him, being you have such low regard for politicians who exploit human tragedies for their own agendas :francis:


Exploiting shyt he either took from someone else ("ThE LoWeSt UnEmPLyMENt EVAR!!! ALL MEE!!") or shyt that everyone else has the intelligence or human decency to never use for personal gain is Trump's autobiography and the story of his whole failed Presidency.

All that virtual high fiving, LOLing, and chest bumping yall independents was on when it was Trump exploiting every issue out there to "own libs" for aport. A freefalling economy thanks to Trump's objectively botched up, negligent actions got yall scared af so now let's demand respect and decency, especially from you despicable lefties. :mjlol:

Typical Republican cowards. God don't like ugly. Karma's a bytch and Trump about to get all that work for this shyt once those job numbers start coming out. So will his dumb supporters. When the unemployment rate reaches a record high under Trump I will be all over the place "exploiting" the shyt making sure you MAGA clowns never live it down and voters are swayed to a President Joe Biden. Yeah, that's me pushing an agenda. fukk y'all and fukk Trump. Yall decided that "owning libs" was more important than protecting this country or its people and reveled in all the arrogant fukkery that led us here. The time to put politics aside and have respectful discourse for the good of our nation's safety came and went a loooooooooooong time ago. Hold this L breh. Yall "black independents" showin all types of your asses this week. :russ:

:whew: :whew:
 
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There’s a percentage of this country who choose not to have insurance at all. Typically individuals making well over 55k. And that’s their choice to do so. Just like some people choose not to have cars.

that’s why when Bernie says so so millions of ppl don’t have healthcare insurance, I kind of chuckle. There’s millions in America who don’t want health insurance and/or pay a shyt ton of taxes for it. Bernie plays dumb and includes them in his numbers. My cousin being one. He did the math and paying out of pocket is cheaper for him bc he’s young and healthy.

it’s a huge risk, but it’s a risk they have the right to take.
:mjlol:
 

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Why is the market up on this news?


Never a better argument for universal healthcare than right now.

I came in here to make this point.

The market is up because the businesses have received their bailout and the unemployment won't affect them.
 
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