Usher's first week sales projection (He had a great run)

[Here Comes the Pain]

WHAT??

this doesn't even make sense.






THIS

If you're saying usher is just okay then what does that say about Miguel, trey songz, Chris brown, Alicia keys, Mary j blige, aaliyah, Janet Jackson, Timberlake, neyo, etc who aren't better singers than usher.

Another thing, if usher can't be considered a legend because of dupri then why doesn't this logic apply to Janet and whitney?

 

[David_TheMan]

If you're saying usher is just okay then what does that say about Miguel, trey songz, Chris brown, Alicia keys, Mary j blige, aaliyah, Janet Jackson, Timberlake, neyo, etc who aren't better singers than usher.

Another thing, if usher can't be considered a legend because of dupri then why doesn't this logic apply to Janet and whitney?

Miguel is a better singer than Usher.
Trey Songz is equally nasally and weak as Usher, same as chris Brown and Timberlake.
neyo can sing when he isn't trying to sing too high, plus he is a excellent writer.
Mary J can't sing live, but she has a style and actually did influence R&B on the female side in the 90s.
Aaliyah was a solid singer, not exceptional, not terrible.

Janet doesn't get flack for working with Jimmy and Terry because she sit a female R&B archetype that is still followed today. When you set a standard that others try to emulate you get passes because your influence is clearly felt and seen that is what makes you a legend.

You can't be a legend when you spend your whole career copying off more successful people

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

If you're saying usher is just okay then what does that say about Miguel, trey songz, Chris brown, Alicia keys, Mary j blige, aaliyah, Janet Jackson, Timberlake, neyo, etc who aren't better singers than usher.

Another thing, if usher can't be considered a legend because of dupri then why doesn't this logic apply to Janet and whitney?

how old are you breh? no diss. I just need to know. youre bringing up these names like youre proving some sort of point. I don't think highly of most of these acts either. but before I get to that:

whitney is arguably the goat vocalist.
janet Jackson cant sing a lick. usher is at least marginal on the mic. theyre in the same boat. entertainer singers. but she gets more props because her music was way better. her shows were bigger & better too.

as for your list at the beginning, I don't think highly of any of them vocally. in fact, half of these names are ass with the vocals.

Alicia keys and especially mary j blige are much better artists tho.

nee-yo writes his own hits.

 

[Here Comes the Pain]

Chris brown and trey songz on usher's level singing wise.

Miguel a better singer than usher???

Breh it's clear as day that you're hating.

Jimmy jam and terry lewis made that sound that's still influential to this day. Janet didn't do that.

 

[King Poetic]

it's 2016 and these consumers isn't fukking with albums

nikka should have just made a EP

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

lol @Here Comes the Pain bringing up these weak names like Aaliyah & Justin timberlake, thinking hes making a point.

just come clean breh. some of yall got into it when usher was poppin, and yall think more of him than he actually is.

 

[Here Comes the Pain]

Usher is a better singer then Janet.

Janet and Whitney had people that created that sound for them.

It doesn't make sense to hold usher down for having dupri.

I'm not even talking about talent when it comes to them, but just the fact that usher is criticized for it when others do it as well is off and isn't logically.

Usher>>>>Alicia keys and Mary j to me

 

[Here Comes the Pain]

@Homeboy Runny-Ray you think usher isn't a legend. That in itself gives you no credibility at all.

Then somebody said usher can't sing.

Y'all hating on usher so much y'all not even tryna give out logical responses.

Regardless of how anybody feels about usher his resume speaks for itself.

He is a certified legend.

 

[iamduval]

I'm Tryna Think Of A Song Of His That Shook The World (Yeah!) ?

Legendary Performace?

Album That Made People Desperate To Be Released?

You are def not black

 

[Dilltastic VolWon(derful)]

Usher lost me forever with this song

I never even realized until this post this is Usher. Always just thought it was some one hit wonder they found

Usher is a better singer then Janet.

Janet and Whitney had people that created that sound for them.

It doesn't make sense to hold usher down for having dupri.

I'm not even talking about talent when it comes to them, but just the fact that usher is criticized for it when others do it as well is off and isn't logically.

Usher>>>>Alicia keys and Mary j to me

 

[ThaBronxBully]

You are def not black

Feel Free To Shut Down What I Said In The Quote

 

[Cynic]

Ding Ding Ding. The problem is not black audiences abandoning stars, it's these stars never growing up with their music. Usher 40 something or close to it trying to go toe to toe with teenagers making turn up anthems.

For perspective, Maxwell did double Usher's numbers first week this year and he was never even nearly as popular. D'Angelo did almost 5x those numbers last year.

Usher's fans are his age, and they do in fact mind if you dance on that pole.

Maxwell and DAngelo take years to craft albums because they play instruments.

That's like comparing their dance moves...those two would get washed.

 

[puppetmaster]

Usher isn't a legend?

come on now, I hope that's trolling because dudes run from 97-2004 ALONE certified him, everything after has been experimenting.


you didn't get full length Showtime concerts (2004) back then unless you were legit.



There have been better singers etc, but Usher captured the essence and feeling of his era which few of his peers from 97-2004 did. .. there's no way around that to deny him legend status.

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

Usher isn't a legend?

come on now, I hope that's trolling because dudes run from 97-2004 ALONE certified him, everything after has been experimenting.

making pop records to stay afloat after your album flops is NOT experimenting.

Usher is a better singer then Janet.

Janet and Whitney had people that created that sound for them.

It doesn't make sense to hold usher down for having dupri.

I'm not even talking about talent when it comes to them, but just the fact that usher is criticized for it when others do it as well is off and isn't logically.

Usher>>>>Alicia keys and Mary j to me

janet was indeed criticized back when she was poppin.

whitney is one of the goat vocalists. I explained this to you already. why are you going in cicles and repeating the same chit? youre wasting my time. word to the wise, instead of arguing about stuff that you clearly don't know much about, you should fallback and learn something.

if usher or janet could sing half as good as whitney, nobody would criticize them for not crafting their own sound.

THIS ISNT HIP-HOP. their job is to sing. but if youre not that good of a singer, people are gonna expect that youre bringing more to the table. i.e. the dream cant sing at all, but we know that he writes, produces, etc.

usher should never be mentioned in the same breath as mary.

@Homeboy Runny-Ray you think usher isn't a legend

I never even said this.

I just said hes not the type of legend that yall think he is.

and lol @ claming I have no credibility when youre showing that you don't know anything about r&b. plus youre still hiding your age.

 

[Here Comes the Pain]

I never even said this.

I just said hes not the type of legend that yall think he is.

and lol @ claming I have no credibility when youre showing that you don't know anything about r&b. plus youre still hiding your age.

chris may not be a strong vocalist now, but at least he was nice on the mic when he first hit the scene. there was never any point when you could say that about usher

you trying to tell me I don't know anything about r&b.

Nobody's claiming usher as one of the greatest singers to ever do it, but it's ridiculous to think that usher isn't a good singer.

He's a good singer, a great dancer, and a great performer/entertainer.. Like I've already said his resume speaks for himself.