malbaker86
Gators
Tim Duncan should be the PERFECT example as to why you don't need PED's as an athlete. Just perfect your craft. Nah I wouldn't do em.
Using PED's in sports.......would you do it?
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They are.
Look at all the supplements/vitamins an average athlete takes. Performance Enhancing Drugs do the exact same thing say Vitamin D does for your bones; help's them work stronger, faster, better.
Trojan 24
Veteran
Honestly after I have kids, I'm going in. I'd really like to see a study done on the potential affect on offspring. Anyone else notice a lot of athletes be having kids with issues? 
Trojan 24
Veteran
I have no doubt the Gawd was getting a little HGH treatment in Germany
USSInsiders
Banned
No offense brother, but the sanctimonious belief you're touting is the same held by most casual sports fans and it exposes their naivete. Most college athletes take shyt, even high school athletes take shyt. The athletes saying that are full of shyt and probably take PEDs themselves. It's all a huge fukking game and the coaches, the medical personnel, the front office, and the league office(s) are in on it, too.There is nothing wrong with taking drugs to enhance recovery. Everyone does it, the only ones that get caught are too dumb to pass the tests. The leagues put up this phony image like they care when in reality they know their entire fortune would be obliterated if these drugs were truly prohibited. Don't believe the hype; they're pretending to crack down on this shyt.
You notice how tons of guys are getting busted for ADD meds or stims? That's a horseshyt lie put out by the league's PR. They probably got caught with heavier shyt like testosterone or HGH, but Adderall doesn't sound as scary. Remember when Roger Mathis got caught using Clomid (an AI that guys use when they get off a cycle)? He got a little slap on the wrist and nothing happened. It's all nonsense.
This is just the reality of sports. The romanticized Sports Illustrated illusion I once believed was shattered the older I got and the more I got involved in fitness. Weightlifting and football go hand-in-hand and it's no surprise most of these guys take similar shyt.
In my opinion, there is absolutely nothing wrong morally with taking PEDs. Nothing. The legal supplement industry makes billions selling bunk, do-nothing nonsense for the same intention--you know, to enhance sports and fitness performance--but because it's "natural" (aka, it doesn't do jack shyt) somehow it makes it okay, but god forbid people take drugs that can actually improve their lives.
Are there inherent risks? Absolutely. But the drugs are a lot safer when carefully managed/monitored than most people think.
USSInsiders
Banned
I can tell you 80% of my highschool baseball/fb/basketball/wrestling team were, and they did it for free... Lets not be crazy, how many people do we know do ped's and dont get paid? Now factor in millions...
Its not just to get big and strong, its to recover from an injury quicker, to recover from game to game, pitchers pitching on 3 days rest, you name it. clen makes you breath deeper good for runners/swimmers, it does not builk you up.
Sure commissioners will say its more liek 5% and 100% of those were caught
If you came from nothing
And you can change your whole family history with one signature
You will have money and fame...(I for one do not like the fame part)
But your health in your later years might suffer
And if the Media finds out your done....
Would you take PED'S
With a big contract on the line or if I was injured, I'd probably do a cycle or two. Might as well live comfortably since my life span probably isn't that long anyway.
It's like these guys have been saying, PED use is WAY more common than the public can ever imagine. I used to work at GNC with guys that did amateur bodybuilding, semi-pro football, and the customers will even tell you...
It's in Hollywood. It's in the high school football programs. It's in bodybuilding. It's in regular-ass gyms. You'd be hard-pressed to find a clean locker room at any level, so why not? A pro career is fleeting.
i'm seeing nothing but yes's so why do nikkas outrage /suspect when players like Lebron or A-rod do it?
You know.
malbaker86
Gators
Well i'm assuming that he hasn't taken them. even then, there are way more examples we could use as far as great athletes who hasn't used them, no?
USSInsiders
Banned
I think the notion that an athlete's reputation is tarnished from using them is retarded. Tim duncan is one of my favorite athletes because he epitomizes fundamental excellence and skillfulness--same with Kobe.
I'd still use any and all athletes---natural or unnatural--as great examples to admire though.
Shoutout Jesse Owens
USSInsiders
Banned
The only time I ever saw a mainstream publication discuss this issue was in ESPN magazine years ago, and they're anonymous surveys, and who knows how truthful the participants were.
I'm just giving you anecdotes but it's on the basis that one of my best friends was a collegiate football player and most of what he told me was firsthand.
Now in the pros? Who knows what the real numbers truly are. I don't think you'll ever get an honest answer because too many people make money from the pros to let everyone in on the dirty secret.
If you were ever a high level competitor or know someone who competed at a high level, maybe they'd be willing to tell you the truth.
Without putting a number on it, I can safely say that more than likely, the majority use some type of PED
malbaker86
Gators
I get your logic but i'm saying he should be an example that you don't need em to excel. Granted it's not that easy or easy to be the next TD, but there ain't nothing wrong with NOT taking them. Hell I don't think there's anything wrong WITH taking em. It doesn't guarantee that you will become a great player.
USSInsiders
Banned
This is absolutely true. You do not need them to excel, you really don't. Like I've said, the biggest myth is that they're magic skill enhancers. Just some primal abilities are enhanced but most of these drugs are strictly to improve the ability to recover.
Same is true for most bodybuilders. You can't just take steroids and magically grow. You still have to put in tons and tons of work to get results.