Van Lathan calls Teyana Taylor's character in One Battle After Another "an abomination/white man's porn fantasy of a black woman" spoilers

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My only issue is I didn’t buy their motivation for trying to start a revolution. It was too topical and safe imo. Abortion rights and illegal immigration will not be the main drivers for a revolution in this country. It was like what an MSNBC host thinks will be what sends the country over the edge. What It will be is outright state oppression and wealth inequality.

If they were capping billionaire shytheads and centers of financial powers I would find it more believable and actually would have been more daring to portray.
 

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The discourse around this has been entertaining. White people are in love with it. Some of the harshest critiques of the portrayal of Teyana's character I've seen have been from nominally leftish or liberal black men.

And some of the strongest defenses have been from nominally leftish or liberal black women



Yhara Zayd hasn't posted a video review yet but her letterbox announced that she loved it so I'm expecting her to drop a video essay at some point, and likely will tackle the arguments made by the FD Signifiers.

Fantastic Frankie stays proving she’s one of the loudest anti–Black male c00ns on YouTube. I knew what time it was with her when she was against recasting T’Challa.
 

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I tuned this shyt off..between teyana taylors acting and her face and the excessive closeup...i made it to the bathroom scene and turned that shyt off like wtf is this
I was about to walk out during the beginning of it but I was with other folks. Especially the way they had the few black women in the film acting. They were all portrayed as overly vulgar and sexual. I went to the bathroom because I didn’t like the initial part of the film and found it cringy. I came back near where it was in the future. I found it more tolerable at that point. But her character and the “jungle p*ssy” shyt made me want to leave. If it was just me and my girl we would have been out of there.
 

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damn i think i've waited too long to see this before the the thinkpieces on either side started. Just looking at the thumbnails above, it's already painting a picture of this movie being filled with "messages". :beli: Won't even be able to watch it just as a story.
 

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She destroys this bullshyt. Also kudos to her for this Fred Hampton quote :salute:

But Black revolutionaries like Fred Hampton specifically spoke out against these kinds of reckless tactics. In an interview with ABC News, Hampton explained why the Black Panther Party would have nothing to do with white leftists movements the Weathermen and the SDS, which he characterized as masquerading as revolutionaries:

“We stand way back from the SDS and the Weathermen. We think it is anarchistic, opportunistic, individualistic, it’s chauvinistic, it’s custeristic—and that’s the bad part about it. It’s custeristic in that its leaders take people into situations where the people can be massacred and they call it revolution and it’s nothing but child’s play. It’s folly and it’s criminal because people can be hurt. We say that they’re doing exactly what the pigs want them to do. When they take people down and just do nothing, play around, and the pigs are prepared for this and they wipe all of those young people out. We think these people may be sincere but they’re misguided, they’re muddle-heads and they’re scatterbrains. The only way we can show them is to criticize them like we’re doing right now and then leave from here and then go to the federal building and have a demonstration that’s to educate, a demonstration that is disciplined and organized and let them see the examples.”

In this light, I must say a third time, it’s insidious for Anderson to use a movement of men and white leftists that was heavily criticized in its time by other Black revolutionaries and make a Black woman the face of it for the plot alone—a plot in which she doesn’t even get to actively participate!

fukk this piece of shyt movie:pacspit:
 
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the first 20 minutes is so grotesque and unnecessary . lucky for the director the rest of the film is generational and made up for it.
 

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I’m planning to watch it this weekend. I’m starting to have reservations now though. :sadcam:
:jbhmm:Go into this movie with the mindset that you are watching a satire/parody of the far left and far right and the people that join them. In my opinion, this movie is a satire/parody of political groups wrapped around a coming-of-age story. @Dr. Acula , yeah, the black women shown in this movie come off as a negative parody of the type of black women whites would think would join far left groups, like, for example, Black Lives Matter. The character Teyana plays in this is like some kind of satire/parody of Elaine Brown/Michele Wallace.
Sadiki “Bro. Shep” Ojore Olugbala, who said he used to work in security for Eldridge Cleaver, remembered Brown as sort of a groupie. “At that time, Elaine was dubbed as another girl who wanted to have sex with men in leadership positions which placed her in a higher suspicion in my security files,” Olugbala wrote in a letter to Drums In The Global Village.

He also recalled an incident that he said was incited by Brown but in which Brown claimed to be the victim. During a Jan. 17, 1969 meeting on the UCLA campus, Brown screamed that she’d been assaulted by one of the attendees. Los Angeles Black Panther chapter leader John Huggins, with whom Brown was sexually involved, said Olugbala shot at the accused. A shootout ensued resulting in the deaths of Huggins and Black Panther Party leader Bunchy Carter.

“During the police investigation, Elaine Brown lied…She then continued this lie all the way to the witness stand in LA Superior court,” Olugbala wrote, charging that Brown’s lies led to the wrongful conviction of two people she claimed were shooters.

Brown testified for the prosecution, which in the eyes of the Panthers and Olugbala made her a “snitch.” Olugbala banished her from events, he wrote.

Later in the 1970s, Olugbala claimed that Brown became Huey Newton’s lover and inflamed his “hatred against Eldrgige.”

As the relationship between Brown and Newton soured, “Huey called her out as an FBI agent,” Olugbala wrote.

In addition to Olugbala’s claims, released FBI records revealed more than 500 reports on a wide range of activists and political groups in the Bay Area filed by early Panther member Richard Aoki, who was also an FBI informant. In the files was information on Brown that the FBI was collecting, Reveal News reported.

The question of whether or not Brown was an informant played out on Twitter recently.

Tweeter ghetto intellectual mentions another of Brown’s lovers, Jay Kennedy.

Kennedy was a record executive, and Harry Belafonte’s business manager. He also worked for Frank Sinatra. He was a CIA and FBI informant. It was well known that he and Brown were involved.

While there is no definitive evidence that Brown was indeed an informant, there is circumstantial evidence that she may have been groomed or prepped to become one.
Bramhall believes Gloria Steinem used her influence in the feminist movement, as founder of Ms. Magazine and through a variety of to her platforms to help redefine feminism – and she was nudged by the CIA to do it. She particularly pointed out how Steinhem heavily promoted a book allegedly written by Michele Wallace, a Black feminist activist who was also touted as a leader of the movement.

“In her early twenties Wallace, who like Steinem came out of nowhere (she was a Newsweek book review researcher), was suddenly being touted as the “leader” of Black feminism,” Bramhall wrote. “In the book, Wallace called abolitionists like Harriet Tubman and Sojouner Truth ‘ugly’ and ‘stupid’ for supporting Black men. She called Black Revolutionaries ‘chauvinist macho pigs’ and advised Black women to ‘go it alone.’ Gloria Steinem maintained that Wallace’s book would ‘define the future of Black relationships’ and she pushed hard to make sure the book received massive publicity. Gloria Steinem’s efforts triggered a flood of ‘Hate Black Men’ books and films that continues to this day.”


Bramhall added, “The original feminists of the sixties and seventies didn’t hate men (at least not the ones I worked with). What they hated was patriarchy and the use of male privilege to deny women and children full equality as human beings.”

Fact Check: Black Panther Party's Elaine Brown Groomed By A US Government Informant Fact Check: Did Feminism Prophet Gloria Steinem Really Work For The CIA?
 
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