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Mantis Toboggan M.D.

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The mainstream media outlets are compromised and are of no help.

Also, congress seems cooked. Didn’t bother telling congress but told the papers. Wow

We have no free press, an illegitimate judiciary, and no representation in government at this point.
 

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I actually agree with this, but probably not for what you think.

China is eventually going to take back Taiwan and the US won’t do anything about it because Southeast Asia is China’s and we are 7,000 miles away. They own that part of the world and the US will control the western hemisphere.

We are moving to a multipolar world and that’s okay. The US has seemed to cede the economic side while still having all the guns.

America’s downfall is internal in that no one has come up with an economic remedy that satisfies most citizens. And we are uninterested in the climate crisis and have ceded leadership to China.

‘Southeast Asia and East Asian countries do not rock with china like that. China isn’t gucci in other parts of the world like people make it seem, I think we just digest it better as their did their thing economically rather than militarily.
 

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We have no free press, an illegitimate judiciary, and no representation in government at this point.
I hear you but emotions aside seemed like an insane catch 22. Break the news and get American soldiers cooked plus the shyt show after or proceed like what happened, Americans live and then deal with the marketing fall out.

we can argue USA shouldn’t have been there anyways but that already happened so do you set them up for a larger bloodbath or what
 

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You asked if Trump gave a shyt. I told you he doesn't need to. We're selling hundreds of billions of dollars in military supplies to them anually. They're a major trade partner that a price can't even put on. Also in a faux pas Trump recently said the US would deploy troops if you recall. Japan is on a war footing. The US has reactived activated numerous bases in the region. Yes, I think the US and region would likely go to war over Taiwan. China has bullied and threatened their neighbors for decades.

You guys have made your feelings abundantly clear. Gazans freezing and starving to death in tents was your preferred outcome. Live with yourself if you can. If I had the hangups of religious superiority that some of you hold so deeply maybe I would think this is remotely rational but I don't. There's several threads to whine about Israel and Jews in go do it there instead of following me around.

Where are the posts of me claiming Israel should not exist or that jews should be killed? I assumed you would be able to pull those since you claimed I said that. Or did you make that up because you are a lying piece of shyt?

Also, I said many times before the election that electing Trump would be worse for Gazans, you dont get to group me in to "you guys" to divert from the fact that you dont actually care about human rights but just pretend to.

You are a dishonest, lying piece of shyt and this post is just one of the many examples of that.

And I will confront you for it every time I see you crawling in to another thread sanewashing what Israel is doing but pretending to care about human rights.
 

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@ExodusNirvana takes a lot of right wing content. He seems to low key have become that.
Like I said, you people need to grow the fukk up.

When we're at the point where anyone that goes against the hivemind is MAGA, we've jumped the shark.

Venezuelans cheering in the streets and these cats grumping about Trump.

Get real.

And if this site wasn't falling apart, you'd be able to search me calling out posters for posting from right wing social media.

The fact of the matter is, this place has become an echo chamber to the point where people are championing dictators and authoritarian regimes as long as they're AGAINST America and then trying to make it a Black thing on top of that.

"The Left" doesn't have any actual positions and it shows, just endless opposition and taxes and feelings.

What a joke.
 
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We should avoid responding to every deadly, stability breaking, illegal trump administration action with “but (insert former person(s) with political power) did ______.”

It gives the impression that nothing is ever Donald Trumps fault and fails to hold him (rightly) accountable for his actions.

When Trump bombs a capital city, kills civilians and destabilizes their already frail political system, the bulk of the analysis of the situation should revolve around his actions, not turn into a history lesson hoping to minimize his actions less than 24 hours into the event.

Respectfully.

I disagree that adding historical context is giving Trump a pass, I think when US foreign policy tends in a certain direction, being able to articulate where his policies fit in to that direction is important. A lot of the illegal things Trump is doing have precedent in what his predecessors did, but because he is a lunatic, it tends to be a super charged version. It is important to point out the context because lunatics like Trump will use those precedents in ways that are dangerous, which is why we should avoid those precedents in the first place.

But we should also be able to point out when posters know nothing about a topic and should not be involved in discussions at all.

CrimsonTider is not bad on domestic, but he should not be posting in any thread that involves topics of international matters, ask him and he will not deny that he doesnt pay attention to international news. Which is why he adds nothing to international discussions other than putting his ignorance on display.
 

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I disagree that adding historical context is giving Trump a pass, I think when US foreign policy tends in a certain direction, being able to articulate where his policies fit in to that direction is important. A lot of the illegal things Trump is doing have precedent in what his predecessors did, but because he is a lunatic, it tends to be a super charged version. It is important to point out the context because lunatics like Trump will use those precedents in ways that are dangerous, which is why we should avoid those precedents in the first place.

But we should also be able to point out when posters know nothing about a topic and should not be involved in discussions at all.

CrimsonTider is not bad on domestic, but he should not be posting in any thread that involves topics of international matters, ask him and he will not deny that he doesnt pay attention to international news. Which is why he adds nothing to international discussions other than putting his ignorance on display.
The coli has been dominated by misinformation and proud ignorance for awhile. People genuinely think Reddit, Twitter posts from bots, and YouTube from balding passport bros are legitimate sources of accurate information.

The complete lack of mods helped ruin the coli years ago
 

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‘Southeast Asia and East Asian countries do not rock with china like that. China isn’t gucci in other parts of the world like people make it seem, I think we just digest it better as their did their thing economically rather than militarily.
The Western hemisphere do not rock with the US like that, but these nations are not as powerful as the US. Same is true in that region.
 

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The Western hemisphere do not rock with the US like that, but these nations are not as powerful as the US. Same is true in that region.

This is known. My point is we need to not talk as if there is some good guy in this thing or like non superpowers have the back of anyone, most thesr countries just trying to survive
 

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Venezuelans cheering in the streets and these cats grumping about Trump.

As the dust settles in Caracas, Venezuelans are reacting to the news of President Nicolás Maduro's capture by the US with hope, fear, and uncertainty.
People began to emerge in the streets Saturday after a night rocked by explosions in the Caracas Valley, with moods that ranged from celebration to condemnation.
Dina, a local resident, told the BBC that for now, she was grateful to the US for "taking Maduro out of here" because she "at least can see some light at the end of the tunnel again".
But the political climate remains tense, part of why she did not give the BBC her real name.
Jorge, another Venezuelan who lives near Caracas, told the BBC that while he's grateful to be "well-supported by Trump and the entire United States", he fears the coming days will not be easy.
"Now that they are taking this man away, what's going to happen?" he said. "It doesn't guarantee us anything. So there is a bit of uncertainty. We don't know what the coming days will bring."
Supporters of Maduro's government have also been rallying in the streets of Caracas, demanding the US release their leader. Caracas Mayor Carmen Meléndez, a firm government loyalist, joined in the rally to protest against what she called Maduro's "kidnapping".




It's not all celebrations and partying. A lot of is due to uncertainty of the future. Stop getting your news from Newsmax and Fox News.
 

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This is known. My point is we need to not talk as if there is some good guy in this thing or like non superpowers have the back of anyone, most thesr countries just trying to survive
My post didn't say there were any good guys. All I said is the world is going multipolar.
 

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It's not all celebrations and partying. A lot of is due to uncertainty of the future. Stop getting your news from Newsmax and Fox News.


He used to be a pretty solid poster no clue what happened to him
 

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It's not all celebrations and partying. A lot of is due to uncertainty of the future. Stop getting your news from Newsmax and Fox News.an







It's not all celebrations and partying. A lot of is due to uncertainty of the future. Stop getting your news from Newsmax and Fox News.
And not a FoxNews or NewsMax article or social media post has EVER been posted by me

YOU PEOPLE ARE UNWELL
 

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I disagree that adding historical context is giving Trump a pass, I think when US foreign policy tends in a certain direction, being able to articulate where his policies fit in to that direction is important. A lot of the illegal things Trump is doing have precedent in what his predecessors did, but because he is a lunatic, it tends to be a super charged version. It is important to point out the context because lunatics like Trump will use those precedents in ways that are dangerous, which is why we should avoid those precedents in the first place.

But we should also be able to point out when posters know nothing about a topic and should not be involved in discussions at all.

CrimsonTider is not bad on domestic, but he should not be posting in any thread that involves topics of international matters, ask him and he will not deny that he doesnt pay attention to international news. Which is why he adds nothing to international discussions other than putting his ignorance on display.
I think we all acknowledge precedent or not Trump is going to do what he wants. He isn’t studying laws from centuries ago to find loop holes to deport people for instance. He isn’t prefacing the Clinton administration for his current crimes.

The poster crimson was talking to has a nasty habit of routinely being unable to get through one trump administration illegal or cruel action without referring to something prior instead of holding the actual perpetrator accountable. He is minimizing his actions just like the media he routinely denigrates.

There will be plenty of time to dissect the historical root which led us here. But when they are still digging bodies out of the rubble and the political chaos of the post maduro era has yet to even begin, I’d posit to say perhaps our energy should be primarily focused on the man primarily responsible instead of immediately and reflexively blaming someone else from decades ago.
 
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He used to be a pretty solid poster no clue what happened to him
A lot of the Obama kids from 2008 who defended everything he did and absolved him of blame during his presidency, began moving to the right, is a theory I have. They didn’t become MAGA, but they are more sympathetic to conservatives than they think.
 
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