Verzuz Returns: Cash Money vs No Limit: 8PM ET Oct 25th on Apple Music

[Bonefan32]

Its been great going on Spotify and revisiting old No Limit music I haven't heard in years

Out of all the no limit music this song has been my favorite since I first heard it as a kid



It's a perfect song to me

 

[Wacky D]

Stop it. You're letting bias cloud facts. By your own argument in bringing up Houston and Miami, you can't leap frog over ATL and jump to New Orleans when discussing The South. There's also Memphis before New Orleans even impacted. No Limit and CMR were non factors before Dungeon Family. That is a fact. And to top it off, they were factors BEFORE, DURING, AND AFTER No Limit and CMR's initial runs.

So So Def had three rap acts. Kriss Kross was done by the time Kast debuted. The only time Brat was arguably bigger than Kast is 1994-1995. Definitely were eclipsed by Kast by 1996. Aquemini was a bigger album than JD's Life in 1472. Stankonia was bigger than Bow Wow's debut.

Nothing biased about my post.

I'm just talking over your head. And it's not because you're stupid or anything. You just want to be stuck in your ways.

I even broke it down for you and you didn't even care to acknowledge any of they key points. The same problem people have with you in every thread, and you're still stuck in your ways after all these years.

 

[TNC]

meh…. I hear you….. okay maybe we should frame it like this…. Turk was the “Pras” of the group

When a Hot Boys song dropped… maybe you quoting Juvie and BG

but when that Turk verse dropped….. niccas smoking they weeks and taking sips of that goose

You know how clubs played some but played like maybe a verse or 2 then blend to the next song?

The Turk verse rarely was played in the clubs


It is what it is my guy

This is disrespectful to call Turk the "Pras" of the group LMAOOOOO

Turk had the best verse on "I need a Hot Girl" and that alone makes him better than bytch ass Pras LMAO

 

[JustCKing]

Nothing biased about my post.

I'm just talking over your head. And it's not because you're stupid or anything. You just want to be stuck in your ways.

I even broke it down for you and you didn't even care to acknowledge any of they key points. The same problem people have with you in every thread, and you're still stuck in your ways after all these years.

You didn't break anything down. And all these years, you still haven't learned to address the topic not the person and how to be unbiased.

It is bogus to claim that New Orleans put the South on the map while acknowledging Houston and Miami, but still overlooking ATL. ATL was on before any artist from New Orleans or Louisiana as a whole was national. When The South dominated Hip Hop in the early '00's, Wayne, Juve and Mystikal were the only artist from New Orleans making noise. They weren't new artists. Then you had Boosie and Webbie from Baton Rouge. Throughout the '00's going into the '10' and this decade. Since the '00's, Kevin Gates is the only N.O. artist I can think of who blew up. Meanwhile, ATL has been like the mecca of Southern Hip Hop for over two decades.

 

[JustCKing]

Comparing Wayne and Turk in ‘98 is laughable. Everyone in school was going around rapping Wayne’s verse on Millionaire Dream.

No one is going around spitting a Turk verse.

And the nerve to say Silkk is some revisionist shyt when his style change was noticable in real time. Silkk was cool during the Richmond days, but once Mystikal came to the tank, he started emulating his style and fell off horribly. Silkk is to blame for people’s perception of him.

And again, that may have been in your circle. I know plenty of people who think Wu Tang is wack. People from different parts of the country. It doesn't make it true.

Naw breh, I will never forget that Source cover that had Silkk next to DMX ane Kurupt as next. People were buying Silkk albums and both Charge It 2 Da Game and Made Man were huge.

 

[R=G]

Turk was the weakest link, and this is coming from someone that was listening to CMR BEFORE the Universal deal.

He appeared on BG’s All On U Vol.1 & 2. Juvenile’s Soulja Rags, and Hot Boys ”Get it how you live.” The nygga has always been mediocre. I was actually surprised CMR went ahead with that Turk solo album.

Now I agree he should be there, but him being viewed as the weakest link is nothing new.

When they were going strong..the Big Tymers were the weakest link...Turk definitely stood out. Juvenile was what blew them up. Then BG's Bling Bling. I Need a Hot Girl was untouchable too.

 

[R=G]

Funny enough this has been a repeated point of contention on this board over the years…with a lot of weird retconning about the status and popularity of Wayne and Turk back in those days …to the point I actually found the ACTUAL soundscan numbers of what Bling Bling era Cash Money albums sold pretty much right up to before Wayne exploded and his back catalogue started selling at a faster pace than the others (data was from a July 2005 Sound Scan report that included a Cash Money catalog retrospective of what it sold up to that point)


People Need To Stop Acting Like Lil Wayne Wasnt The Weakest Link Of The Hot Boys

Soundscan Album Sales 7/27/2005

1 VARIOUS NOW 19 436,102 999 1,650 437,760 2 CAREY*MARIAH EMANCIPATION OF MIMI 89,875 -10 99,449 2,603,195 3 KELLY*R. TP.3 RELOADED 83,159 -40 139,462 717,955 5 BOW WOW WANTED 61,282 -49 119,413 181,051 6 BLACK EYED PEAS MONKEY BUSINESS 60,025 -8 65,012 838,038 8 MARY MARY MARY MARY...

www.illmuzik.com

Juvenile - 400 Degreez - 1998-11-03 - 4,741,440

B.G. - Chopper City In The Ghetto - 1999-04-13 - 1,127,529

Lil Wayne - Tha Block Is Hot - 1999-11-02 - 1,325,492

Juvenile - G-Code - 1999-12-07 - 1,378,558

Big Tymers - I Got That Work - 2000-05-09 - 1,433,992

B.G. - Checkmate - 2000-11-21 - 554,793

Lil Wayne- Lights Out - 2000-12-12 - 851,685

Turk - Young & Thuggin -2001-06-05 -325,401

Big Tymers - Hood Rich - 2002-04-23- 1,221,472

Baby - Birdman - 2002-11-26 - 590,082


Some takeaways: Wayne was the 2nd biggest solo act from that era of Cash Money by a pretty comfortable margin …and Turk had far and away the least successful project out of the bunch. This idea that Wayne and Turk were anywhere close to equal footing back then is patently false

Lil Wayne blew up really because Back Dat Azz Up got so huge and played so fukking much. His first album was nothing memorable at all though.

 

[CHICAGO]

He was about as mediocre as Wayne was. Juve and B.G. were at the forefront. Wayne ain't have an album until '99. Turk didn't drop an album until 2001. Nobody looked at Turk as a weak link or mediocre.

Same way, nobody was saying Silkk was wack in 1998. All this is revisionist on some "you know what, looking back such and such wasn't all that".

FACTS



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[Bryan Danielson]

Its been great going on Spotify and revisiting old No Limit music I haven't heard in years

Out of all the no limit music this song has been my favorite since I first heard it as a kid



It's a perfect song to me

after I graduated….. I was down in Myrtle Beach, SC for Sr Beach week.

I was blasting this HEAVY on the strip that whole week!

This shyt bumped!!

 

[Bryan Danielson]

Turk ain’t got one record better than Silkk

 

[letti cook]

i listened to Mia X, Unladylike last night...man, Mia got a real opportunity to finally get her flowers if they let her cook...Verzus is usually one verse and get out...they need to make sure she gets her verses on Bout It, NL Soldier, & Make Em Say Uh....if she gone do Go 2 War great...bonus if she can bring Foxy out for Party dont stop, prolly not tho...she's still a very strong performer and she's second only to Mac on the label lyrically imo...they should let her shine

i forgot how introspective and conceptual the second half of that album was and it had some of the best NL posse cuts...that's where NL got CMR beat...they had alot more depth

 

[KingsOfKings]

 

[b. woods]

Cash Money is a Army, better yet, a Navy >>>>>>>>> Cash Money is a Army, nikka, a Navy, nikka

B.G. better perform this version.

I'm not gon say it NO MO.

 

[b. woods]

@Bryan Danielson Cut out the "Stan Wars" shyt, Bryan.

 

[Bryan Danielson]

@Bryan Danielson Cut out the "Stan Wars" shyt, Bryan.

I’m doing no such thing……

This the TRUTH WARs

and coli needs more it that…..

You would be of better use spreading this message in that Russ/Bron thread

Eat well there