no you're just a simp
Vice Documentary: "Rescuing Ex-Muslims: Leaving Islam"
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no you're just a simp
whats insecured
he bought kanye a fur coat and then killed his ego.
The Quran isn't like the Bible a book full of stories that is generally easy to understand, that's why if you have Quran translated in English or your native language there are paragraphs at the bottom of the page that expands on the meanings of words and statements. Is this an innovation also? The Quran uses higher terminology, its the word of Allah. Scholars (Ulama) have played a major role in extracting the tafseer (explanations and interpretations) for the Quran and interpretations of laws.
The Qur’an is the directly revealed word of God (Allah) and the Sunnah gives the practical implications of Qur’an. The Sunnah shows how the commandments and teachings mentioned in Qur’an can be put to practice. Sunnah wipes of all the arguments regarding the practicability of Qur’an’s teachings. It leaves no room for something like, ‘It was easy for God to reveal but difficult for people to practice’. As also mentioned in Qur’an 17:94-95 :-Show more respect the the companions of the prophet and those of from the generations of the rightly guided. Without the hadith and the prophet (pbuh) life. We would be arguing over interpretation all the time. There are already far too many sects as it is.
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Thus by sending a human as messenger for humans God (Allah) left no argument what so ever, and Allah knows the best. Thus the messenger (pbuh)’s life itself acted as a revelation and whatever he did, said or allowed is also from Allah as explained further in this article and mentioned by Allah in Qur’an Surah (chapter) 53, Ayah (verse) 3-4.
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I really don't care too much, but are you shia?
Ready to pounce on the shia eh?
No Im not shia, Im a muslim, the label God gave us. And Im not disrespecting the companions, Im giving you proof from God's word about hadith.
Its not that hard to be a muslim breh, do good to others and do good deeds, you need hadith for that?
If you learn arabic, then you can understand the Quran. Dont sit around and wait for someone to explain it for you. And your mixing two different things here, tafseer is not equal to hadith breh.
Have you ever read Bukhari Sahih? There are certain hadiths in there that are quite literally appalling.
He was human breh, ofcourse he made mistakes.
yo tell that to Muslims..and they will curse you for that!!!
according to belief he was the perfect human being..made out of Noor..
Huh?
There's a verse in the Quran talking about the mistake he did once, do these so called muslims not read the Quran no more?
عَبَسَ وَتَوَلَّىٰ ﴿١﴾ أَن جَاءَهُ الْأَعْمَىٰ ﴿٢﴾ وَمَا يُدْرِيكَ لَعَلَّهُ يَزَّكَّىٰ ﴿٣﴾ أَوْ يَذَّكَّرُ فَتَنفَعَهُ الذِّكْرَىٰ ﴿٤﴾ أَمَّا مَنِ اسْتَغْنَىٰ ﴿٥﴾ فَأَنتَ لَهُ تَصَدَّىٰ ﴿٦﴾ وَمَا عَلَيْكَ أَلَّا يَزَّكَّىٰ ﴿٧﴾ وَأَمَّا مَن جَاءَكَ يَسْعَىٰ ﴿٨﴾ وَهُوَ يَخْشَىٰ ﴿٩﴾ فَأَنتَ عَنْهُ تَلَهَّىٰ ﴿١٠﴾
1. “He frowned and turned away,”2. "Because there came to him the blind man."3. “And what would make you know that he might (spiritually) purify himself,”4 “Or become reminded so that the reminder might profit him?"5. “As to one who regards himself self‑sufficient,”6. “To him do you address yourself!"7. “Though it is no blame on you if he would not (spiritually) purify himself.”8. "But as to him who comes to you striving hard,”9. “And he fears (Allah in his heart),”10. "Of him wast thou unmindful."
Ready to pounce on the shia eh?
No Im not shia, Im a muslim, the label God gave us. And Im not disrespecting the companions, Im giving you proof from God's word about hadith.
Its not that hard to be a muslim breh, do good to others and do good deeds, you need hadith for that?
If you learn arabic, then you can understand the Quran. Dont sit around and wait for someone to explain it for you. And your mixing two different things here, tafseer is not equal to hadith breh.
Have you ever read Bukhari Sahih? There are certain hadiths in there that are quite literally appalling.
No I'm not ready to pounce bro, it would just make more sense since they also dismiss hadith and tend to think certain sahaaba where out to undermine Islam (I'm not saying this is what you are doing). The reason why I mentioned tafseer is because writing books was very rare during the time of the prophet (peace be upon him) and his companions, so none of them compiled any books. The systematic compilation of Tafseer actually began towards the end of the Umayyad Era so they had to relay on scrolls and memorizing. I already agreed there are many questionable hadiths. Even good ones about forgiveness that I have heard all my life considered questionable because the authenticity can not be verified. But you can't dismiss all hadith or most because there are a few that are not 100% sahih.
Same thing applies to Hadith the narration where passed down generation to generation.
I do agree that many twist interpretations and the religion for their own agendas. I don't even trust Muftis, Islamic organisations and Universities that are funded and run by Governments whose Islam itself is questionable, for example Saudi universities and Egyptian. We are on the same side here man. The religion is simple n everything you need to know is in the Quran but after that the sahih Hadiths are a great reference.
Really breh? Bilal Philips? A wahabi? Wahabi / salafi are the worst enemies of Islam my brother. Dont ever ever listen to these fools.
You're right about the compiling of books but thats why God commanded the prophet to see the written form, memorize it, and then compile it and thats why the Quran in its entirety was compiled right at the time of the prophets death. And thats why the last revelation sent down to the prophet was God telling us our religion is complete. This is Gods word, not mine. We dont need hadith brother. Im sure some of it is correct and were things the prophet said, sure. But how do we know? how can we verify? and since nothing in it is actually essential, then we should not hold it in such high esteem. The Quran, we dont have this issue with because of its linguistic miracle, the balance, the numerical miracle, the scientific miracles, etc. We know it is absolute, accurate & unaltered. And God said it is all we need so it is all I follow. Im "sunni" btw but I hate that term and I call myself Muslim only. Anyways brother it took me several years and deep research to break free from the chains of hadith and the general corruption of imams / salafis / wahabis / dogma and all the other bulshyt affecting our umma, however, Im finally a free muslim. I follow God's word and gods word only. I wish you all the best brother.
Nice lil story bud. You mean the treasonous jews that stabbed the entire population of yathrib in the back and cooperated with the enemy? And even then he showed mercy and released the majority of them. And the women and children part is straight
Let me ask you, what do your "democratic" and "liberated" and "freedom filled" governments do with traitors?
And as I said earlier, Quran supersedes everything. Hadith is not part of Islam. Its a bunch of stories supposedly said by the prophet which was compiled centuries after his demise. Some of those stories are nice tidbits of wisdom and some are outlandish. They are man made and hold no weight. A real muslim doesnt follow hadith, a real muslim follows the Quran which is all you need to live your life righteously.
Exactly, these guys dont know anything but hate breh, the real story is they commited treason 3 times, and each time the prophet pbuh showed mercy to them, didnt want to punish them, and the correct punishment for treason as written in the constitution of medina was death. Even the 3rd time he didnt want to give them death but his council said if you dont then nobody will take the law seriously. Its hilarious how anti islamic dudes try to spin this. BTW I think the hadith is a part of Islam, but some of it can be taken with a grain of salt. Thats why these bozos can point out things in the hadith to argue with, but the Quran they cant test.
The closest thing to a human actually being perfect. Only Allah is perfect.
Dr. Sebi Jr.
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Nobody leaves Islam.
Nobody leaves Islam.
the cac mamba
Veteran
Majorities of Muslims in Egypt and Pakistan support the death penalty for leaving Islam
Majorities of Muslims in Egypt and Pakistan support the death penalty for leaving Islam
Majorities of Muslims in Egypt and Pakistan support the death penalty for leaving Islam
Majorities of Muslims in Egypt and Pakistan support the death penalty for leaving Islam
Majorities of Muslims in Egypt and Pakistan support the death penalty for leaving Islam
What about Muslims in the US and Canada?
plushcarpet
Superstar
i'd bet good money that behind closed doors, they believe the same thing
