Vice tears Kid Cudi apart for his Arsenio Hall interview

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Kid Cudi fancies himself a Serious Artist™, which in the pop sphere means he doesn’t understand art and is really bad at it. A recent appearance on The Arsenio Hall Show (no, seriously) is instructive in his total lack of understanding things. In clear defiance of reason, Aaron Paul’s co-star in a plotless racing video game adaptation appeared on national television in a Green Day t-shirt, hoodie, and carefully ripped jeans to tell us all what’s wrong with hip-hop.

Prompted by Arsenio to look into the camera and solemnly explain what hip-hop “needs”, Cudi said “I think the braggadocio, money, cash, hoes thing needs to be deaded,” to enthusiastic studio audience applause. This painfully rehearsed brand of Tipper Gore-style concern trolling has been the defining outsider critique of hip-hop for going on four decades and relies on its own history of narrowly focused racism to disregard an entire artform—see: NWA, “Cop Killer,” Chief Keef, and everything in between.

While arguments over what is and is not and is maybe but also not really hip-hop are dumb, that’s not even what Cudi’s doing in his pursuit for Serious Artist cred. What Cudi’s doing is making a case against hip-hop as art in a bullheaded attempt to remold it in his own image. Cudi even goes so far to claim that, if not for the imagined moral fortitude that keeps him from rapping about his collection of ridiculous cars, there “would be no Drake.” A statement rooted in understandable jealousy since Cudi is an off-brand Drake, minus the paradoxical joie de vivre and talent. The jealousy is made only more human by their shared lineage.

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http://noisey.vice.com/blog/why-kid-cudi-doesnt-get-to-write-the-rules-of-hip-hop
 

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yes, attack Cudi for saying hip hop shouldn't be about dumb nikka shyt, thats a plausible reason to attack someone

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personally, I think it's interesting about how he says

"hip hop isn't about making white people comfortable"

yet, you got all these young white teens (like on ktt) dikk riding trap and drill music, then there was a thread that was made calling Jay Z and Jay Elec a racist for their new song. they call black empowerment and uplifting music "dusty and boring" and shyt on it.

in actuality, I think music and artists like Chief Keef makes white people more comfortable than the other.
 

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personally, I think it's interesting about how he says

"hip hop isn't about making white people comfortable"

yet, you got all these young white teens (like on ktt) dikk riding trap music, then a thread that was made calling Jay Z and Jay Elec a racist for their new song.

in actuality, I think music like Chief Keef and Gucci makes white people "more comfortable".

ancient stereotypes over a contemporary beat

Black stereotypes been entertainment for centuries, Europeans manipulated our minds so bad over the course of time that we now embrace and praise those same stereotypes used to subjugate us

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i saw that interview and i couldnt fck wit that noonsense cudi was spewing ..total lack of acknowledgement of our history, our current place in this country and for him to tell us to remove our boasting of our financial successes completely instead of suggesting we liken our bragging to be more in line with accumulating wealth was stupid...his whole rant was a bunch of bullsht and is not needed in the pro black excellence movement that will come from the hands of Hov and Jay Elec with Jay elec's album :blessed:
 

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I agree with some of what he's saying but that piece reads like a bunch of pretentious horseshyt

and sneak dissing Arsenio and Phonte? :camby:

anyway there's room for both...I do think there's way too many trap rappers out there but there's a time and place for that music just like there's a time and place for cudi's shyt
 

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personally, I think it's interesting about how he says

"hip hop isn't about making white people comfortable"

yet, you got all these young white teens (like on ktt) dikk riding trap and drill music, then there was a thread that was made calling Jay Z and Jay Elec a racist for their new song. they call black empowerment and uplifting music "dusty and boring" and shyt on it.

in actuality, I think music and artists like Chief Keef makes white people more comfortable than the other.
This is so true. It's the intelligent shyt (or shyt that doesn't fit stereotypes) that makes whites feel uncomfortable.
Look at what the guitarist for Black Lips wrote about why he doesn't like Drake.
http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/news/...cole-alexander-says-drake-seems-kind-of-fake-
He seems kind of fake to me,” Alexander continues of Drake. "I like my rappers more ghetto and ratchet-sounding. Personally, I like more melodramatic, ignorant Rap where they’re talking about violence and anger and it’s just evil. I don’t like when it’s too conscious, I don’t like it when it’s too smart.
"Smart rap? :whoa: I want my hip-hop to fit the stereotypes I know all black people do"

Edit: I'm just realizing he called Drake fake.
For not rapping "ghetto and ratchet-sounding"
Wouldn't he be fake if he did rap like that?
 

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This is so true. It's the intelligent shyt (or shyt that doesn't fit stereotypes) that makes whites feel uncomfortable.
Look at what the guitarist for Black Lips wrote about why he doesn't like Drake.
http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/news/...cole-alexander-says-drake-seems-kind-of-fake-

"Smart rap? :whoa: I want my hip-hop to fit the stereotypes I know all black people do"

Edit: I'm just realizing he called Drake fake.
For not rapping "ghetto and ratchet-sounding"
Wouldn't he be fake if he did rap like that?

wow. thanks for posting that, i'll make sure I never listen to that band, not that I had an interest in listening to it anyways.

also, I think it's interesting how if a rapper eludes a lot of confidence they'll get slammed for it. now a days, you can't refer to yourself as God or make any sort of religious reference without being "Illuminati" or some shyt, where as in the 90's you had so many NY rappers referring to themselves as that.

i was reading the youtube comments on Asap Fergs song, where he plays the part of being this sort of savior figure rapping about the ills of the streets, the song is called Hood Pope and there were comments calling it blasphemous and saying him thinking hes a god is devilish. meanwhile, the comments on a song where hes rapping about fukking some dudes bytch were like "damn, this song go hard!" also seen an interview of Rocky and in it he explains why he doesn't wear diamonds because Kings didn't and he calls himself a young lord and the comments were filled with a bunch of shyt like "who the fukk does this ignorant cocky loser think he is? he isn't no fukking king!"
 
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