(Video) Gary Payton Explains His Hatred for Today's Soft ass NBA

[SubLyminalz]

Yup the malace in the palace and Kobe(the face of the league) being accused of rape really forced the Nba to go on that PR campaign, dress code , etc...

I agree but Iverson was the reason for the dress code change.

 

[MustafaSTL]

Scores from some of yesterday's games:

121-114
128-125
114-97
103-100
111-108
109-105
108-96
123-116
129-127

If I'm wrong for liking this over the 73-65 slugfests of the late 90s and early 00s, so be it.

 

[threattonature]

Scores from some of yesterday's games:

121-114
128-125
114-97
103-100
111-108
109-105
108-96
123-116
129-127

If I'm wrong for liking this over the 73-65 slugfests of the late 90s and early 00s, so be it.

I think there is a happy medium that can be reached. I hate how strict the league is on ANY physicality in the league. Way too many flagrants called. And way too quick to call technicals. A good fight every now and then is not a horrible thing. Every other sport has it and you might miss a game or two. Now I think if any player throws a real punch he'll probably get like 10 games.

 

[MustafaSTL]

I think there is a happy medium that can be reached. I hate how strict the league is on ANY physicality in the league. Way too many flagrants called. And way too quick to call technicals. A good fight every now and then is not a horrible thing. Every other sport has it and you might miss a game or two. Now I think if any player throws a real punch he'll probably get like 10 games.

All that fighting has nothing to do with higher scoring games. The 80s had more fights than the 90s, didn't have anything to do with open fast break style basketball being implemented.

 

[threattonature]

All that fighting has nothing to do with higher scoring games. The 80s had more fights than the 90s, didn't have anything to do with open fast break style basketball being implemented.

That's my point. The league wants scoring but eliminated all the aggression from the game which in my opinion was unnecessary. A big part of the reason scoring went down was that they had slower footed defenders being extra physical on ball handlers slowing offenses to a crawl. I think by keeping the perimeter rules the same and not allowing the physical play on the perimeter but allowing more contact and more physical play they can appeal to both crowds. Plus with the huge emphasis being placed on three point shooting by all the advanced analytics guys I don't see scoring as a problem.

They eliminated all the violence to appeal to the whiter corporate sponsors and to keep the thug image away from the league.

 

[MustafaSTL]

That's my point. The league wants scoring but eliminated all the aggression from the game which in my opinion was unnecessary. A big part of the reason scoring went down was that they had slower footed defenders being extra physical on ball handlers slowing offenses to a crawl. I think by keeping the perimeter rules the same and not allowing the physical play on the perimeter but allowing more contact and more physical play they can appeal to both crowds. Plus with the huge emphasis being placed on three point shooting by all the advanced analytics guys I don't see scoring as a problem.

They eliminated all the violence to appeal to the whiter corporate sponsors and to keep the thug image away from the league.

Which is why they won't go back to the late 90s style of allowing hard fouls. I hate soft fouls being called flagrants mainly when someone is kicked out of the game for it. Beyond that, I'm not necessarily aesthetically pleased by watching hard fouls like this is football.

My main point is that the harder hand checking basketball of the 90s and early 00s gave us the hardest basketball to watch in league history. If the rules create better flow and more aesthetically pleasing basketball, I'm all for it.

 

[NYC Rebel]

I think there is a happy medium that can be reached. I hate how strict the league is on ANY physicality in the league. Way too many flagrants called. And way too quick to call technicals. A good fight every now and then is not a horrible thing. Every other sport has it and you might miss a game or two. Now I think if any player throws a real punch he'll probably get like 10 games.

instant replay has ruined sports in a way. Anything looks flagrant and calculated in slow motion.

 

[threattonature]

instant replay has ruined sports in a way. Anything looks flagrant and calculated in slow motion.

That's true. And to many arm chair commentators that never played and don't understand that physicality is part of the game. Allowing the harder fouls let's teh teams police all the taunting and stuff they want to take out of the game.

 

[KingJudah]

No showboating after dunks huh?

In that video there are about 8 fouls that would be called in 2014. But look how much excitement there was.

Btw Reignman's dunk was better than anything done in the last 5 years just about

 

[Sterling Archer]

The talent of defenders is much better now than back in the 80s and 90s but they made up for that by hacking. The skill of defense wasn't as good imo as it is now but it was more entertaining.

 

[havoc]

That's my point. The league wants scoring but eliminated all the aggression from the game which in my opinion was unnecessary. A big part of the reason scoring went down was that they had slower footed defenders being extra physical on ball handlers slowing offenses to a crawl. I think by keeping the perimeter rules the same and not allowing the physical play on the perimeter but allowing more contact and more physical play they can appeal to both crowds. Plus with the huge emphasis being placed on three point shooting by all the advanced analytics guys I don't see scoring as a problem.

They eliminated all the violence to appeal to the whiter corporate sponsors and to keep the thug image away from the league.

Scoring didn't went down because of the physical plays. What drag the overall league's scoring down was the substantial amount of isolation plays that thwarted ball movement. The NBA created rules in the 2000s to amp up the defense by placing zone defense back in the game force ball movement on the offense; as a result, the overall league's scoring has gradually inclined. The strategic move to place zone defense back in the game balance both side of the court. Teams are playing better defense without the hacking fouls and moving the ball a lot better which created more scoring on the other end.

 

[threattonature]

Scoring didn't went down because of the physical plays. What drag the overall league's scoring down was the substantial amount of isolation plays that thwarted ball movement. The NBA created rules in the 2000s to amp up the defense by placing zone defense back in the game force ball movement on the offense; as a result, the overall league's scoring has gradually inclined. The strategic move to place zone defense back in the game balance both side of the court. Teams are playing better defense without the hacking fouls and moving the ball a lot better which created more scoring on the other end.

Those rule changes were almost a direct result of the Heat/Knicks teams slowing the game down and playing a crazy physical style. Jordan had just retired and ratings were dropping and you had Knicks/Heat and Spurs playing stifling defense leading to ugly ass games. The NBA was blaming that for the ratings dropped that came with the Jordan retirement. So they more and more focused on having freedom of movement on offense so that ball handlers could have more room to operate.

 

[HHR]

...and dudes who played 15 years before Payton will say their era was the toughest.

Everyone thinks when they played was the best/hardest/whateverthefukk.

 

[USSInsiders]

i had to look up who his son was

this nikka got two kids named gary payton

you're right.