Video: Kevin Durant vs. LeBron James 2018 Finals (every one-on-one defensive possession)

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What is your argument at this point? :why:

In your first example, KD only averaged 28-10-6 on 42% shooting while losing to Memphis in just 5 games. Even worse, those four straight losses were all winnable games (lost by 6, 6, 6, and 4), but KD was absolute trash in the clutch in all four games, shooting 0-9 from the field and 0-2 from the line in the final 3 minutes of those games.

And that Memphis team was decidedly inferior to the Spurs....who LeBron proceeded to defeat with all-time performances in Games 6 and 7 of the Finals.



In your second example, LeBron beat the Pacers in an all-time performance where he basically played 1-on-5 for seven games. LeBron averaged 35-10-8 on 55/35/82 shooting, while his next best scorers for the series were Love (11ppg on 33% shooting), JR (9ppg on 32% shooting) and Korver (8ppg on 38% shooting).

Not only that but LeBron was incredible when he needed to be, going 46-12-5 on 17-24 shooting in Game 2 to hold onto a 3-point win, 32-13-7 on 12-22 shooting in Game 4 to hold onto a 4-point win, 44-10-8 on 14-24 shooting in Game 5 and hitting the game-winning 3 after the game-saving block, and 45-8-7 on 16-25 shooting to hold onto a 4-point win and win the series.

And your response was....that Bogdanovic was guarding LeBron, when LeBron absolutely destroyed the Pacers and Durant hadn't had any meaningful success against Bogdanovic anyway?

YOU are the one who asked whether Bogdanovic could guard Durant. You walked into that one. What are you trying to prove now? :skip:
 

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Y’all in here talking about all time performances against the goddamn pacers
This is the sort of idiocy I have to point out, where you take out all context and pretend that because it's the "Pacers", it's not meaningful. The Pacers were a strong team last year who outplayed the Cavs at every single position other than LeBron. As if one of the most famous shots of Jordan's career wasn't against the Cleveland Cavaliers, or as if the most famous game of Kobe Bryant's career wasn't against an awful Toronto team, or as if Wilt Chamberlain isn't more known for what he did against a trash Knicks team than anything else in his career.

We're comparing LeBron to Durant. Durant barely has two classic performances in his entire lifetime portfolio outside of cases where his team had a huge talent advantage that determined the outcome of the series before it even started. While against the Pacers LeBron played damn near 1-on-5 during the series and won it with one epic performance after another. The Pacers big men were all running wild on the Cavs while Oladipo was playing like a star, Pacers had SEVEN guys in double figures while Love with 11ppg on 33% shooting was the only Cav in double-figures besides LeBron. And the Cavs still won behind LeBron's dominance.

When KD does that, wake me up. :sas1::sas2:




He had 3 all time performances in the playoffs alone. And game 1 of the finals :stopitslime:

I don't even know which three of them you mean. :patrice:

1st Round Game 2: Down 1-0 to the Pacers after a blowout loss in which his teammates showed they were going to let themselves get manhandled by Oladipo, Turner, Lance, and company, LeBron turns in a 46-12-5 game on 17-24 shooting. Even with that he still needs to score 11 in the 4th to preserve the 3-point win, including a clutch 4-4 from the line when up just 3 with 22 seconds left.



1st Round Game 5: Coming back home needing to win, LeBron went for 44-10-8 on 14-24 shooting. When everyone on the team went ice cold and only scored 9 points combined in the final 15 minutes of the game, LeBron had follow a game-preserving block with a game-winning three.





1st Round Game 7: LeBron does what he always does in Game 7, putting up a 45-8-7 on 16-25 shooting with 4 steals to eek out a 4-point win and take the series.



ECSF Game 2: Going on the road against the 1-seed Raptors, LeBron drains a game-tying fadeaway with 30 seconds left in Game 1 to push Toronto to overtime and survive a 1-point win, then compiles a ridiculous 43-8-14 game on 19-28 shooting to leave no doubt.





ECSF Game 3: With Raptors trying to survive the series, LeBron puts up a 38-6-7 game on 14-24 shooting and scores 16 in the 4th including this game-winner at the buzzer.





ECF Game 2: After getting blown out in Game 1, LeBron put up a 42-10-12 on 16-29 shooting with 5 threes and still lost.


ECF Game 4: In a must-win situation down 2-1 at home in Game 4, LeBron put up a 44-5-3 game on 17-28 shooting to tie the series.



ECF Game 6: Down 3-2 and facing elimination, LeBron thows together a 46-11-9 game with 5 threes and 3 steals to tie the series.



ECF Game 7: LeBron does what LeBron does, going 35-15-9 on 12-24 shooting with two big blocks to win the series.



Finals Game 1: Facing what everyone considers to be pretty much impossible odds against the Warriors, LeBron goes into San Francisco and hangs 51-8-8 on 19-32 shooting on Durant, hitting the go-ahead shot with 32 seconds left and only a slew of terrible calls, a missed free throw by George Hill, and a brain aneurysm by J.R. Smith kept them from the upset win.



That's 9 classic games, 8 40+ point games all with ridiculous stat lines, 3 huge elimination game wins, 2 buzzer beaters and a total of 5 go-ahead or game-tying shots in the final 30 seconds of games. All in a single playoff run at the age of 33 on an awful playoff team.

KD hasn't done that in his entire career.
 
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If you swap Lebron for Durant the cavs lose to the pacers in 6 games in round one. More like 5 the way Oladipo was playing.

We saw what happened against memphis when the guy that was "holding him back" had to have knee surgery.



You must be on drugs if you think 29ppg on 42% is going to cut it with what Lebron dragged to the finals. You'll get blown off the floor.

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This is what was required to beat the pacers in 7 games...KD would have 0 chance.

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The fact this post has 9+ daps is all the proof you need LeBron stans are the WOAT fanbase on this board. All those years of taking the basketball-moral high ground, only to end up co-signing dishonest bullshyt like this.

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Being honest is good because. Has Anyone ever though what it would be like if Bron joined the warriors in the place of KD?.
Nah, y'all don't get to play these games.

Y'all muh'fukkas weren't concerned with this shyt when LeBron had the better team throughout most of their career match-ups - you most certainly don't get to play this card now. This is LeBron stans all over though, constantly moving the goalposts to put LeBron in a better light, regardless if it means drowning your arguments in hypocrisy, diversion and double standards.

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The fact this post has 9+ daps is all the proof you need LeBron stans are the WOAT fanbase on this board. All those years of taking the basketball-moral high ground, only to end up co-signing dishonest bullshyt like this.

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Nah, y'all don't get to play these games. Y'all muh'fukkas weren't concerned with this shyt when LeBron had the better team throughout most of their career match-ups, you most certainly don't get to play this card now. This is LeBron stans all over though, constantly moving the goalposts to put LeBron in a better light, regardless if it means drowning yourselves in hypocrisy, and double standards.

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KD doesn’t get that excuse he was on okc with a comparatively talented team. If KD made it to the finals with the 2012 Sacramento kings and lost Is agree lebron just had to much of a talent advantage. There is a reason 2016 okc couldn’t win with multiple chances, with arguably the best team. But KD needs a drastic talent advantage.
 
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Y’all in here talking about all time performances against the goddamn pacers
The worst part of that is, someone already brought up LeBron's #s against the Grizzlies (which were considerably worse than Durant's), and yet they keep framing their arguments around what LeBron did against the Pacers (a much weaker team, and not even the same, stylistically), as if it has any relevance. LeBron would've lost to that Grizzlies team too in a similar amount of games, playing with a lineup of Reggie, Thabo, Ibaka and Perkins.

LeBron stans will do their best NOT to acknowledge that though.

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KD doesn’t.....
LeBron had the better team throughout the majority of their career-matchups, no amount of juelz'ng is gonna take away from the fact.
There is a reason 2016 okc couldn’t win with multiple chances, with arguably the best team. But KD needs a drastic talent advantage.
Yeah, the reason was they played a GS squad with all its players across seven games, if they had the same luck that the Cavs did, they would've beaten the Warriors in 4-1 or 4-2. This is of course after they had already knocked out the 67-win Spurs in the series before. That '16 Cavs would've lost to the Thunder, and they most probably would've lost to the Spurs too. They were just fortunate they played in a weaker conference, and got the right breaks at the right time.

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Smh at the years of epic Thunder-Warriors battles we were robbed of because this one dude decided to be a fakkit. :smh:
Oh yes, because Curry, Klay, Westbrook, and Durant should beat themselves up, year-after-year, softening each other up before the Finals (with all the other top teams they have to go through), while LeBron doesn't face a team even remotely close to either of them as he cruises into the Finals.

How dare other teams have soft trips to the Finals like LeBron....

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It's funny how all these LeBron stans were using his career-record against Durant (you know when he had the better team), as reasoning for why he was the better player, but the moment Durant has the better team, pleas start being copped.

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Not just that, we'd be looking at 5-6 teams with legit shots to win it all. They game was legit becoming more balanced then it's ever been
LeBron stans, y'all.

Talking about all the teams who would've had legit shots to win it all, and the benefit of "balance" in the league, after LeBron teamed up with two of the best players at their respective positions. Who the hell are these muh'fukkas kidding?

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