TheDarceKnight
Veteran
Video has a real 90's feel to it. I dig it.
Totally agree. No matter how dope a Mobb joint is, any video from them in 2014 is just going to be "another Mobb Deep video." If they made a really gritty video with Waterboarding I think it could go over well, but this was the best choice IMO.
I'll try to find a link for the source, but the fukked up thing is that Prodigy was offered to be on it and declined. Maybe that's not how it went down, but he said that he definitely could've been on the song. I think he said that he didn't think it would be that dope? I wish I could remember why he didn't do it. yeah like you said, Hav already did the beat, so Mobb, LOX, and Biggie on a Hell on Earth era instrumental could have made this arguably the GOAT NYC posse joint.
Here's some stuff about Havoc losing the beat for Last Day and having to remake it.
at Puffy saying "i want the fukking beat I paid for!"
Havoc Says The Original Version Of Notorious B.I.G.’s “Last Day” Was Lost
DX: Going back to your statement about holding New York down, what do you remember most about working with B.I.G. and The Lox on “Last Day?”
Havoc: [Diddy] commissioned me to do a track for him. Back in those days, we recorded on reel to reel [tapes], and somehow the original track got lost. I don’t know how—I guess somebody maybe was hatin’ or some shyt. But I had to do another track that sounded similar to the one that you hear now. I remember being in the studio doing the track, and [The Notorious] B.I.G. was in the other room recording. I remember Puff coming in there, and just making sure everything was smooth. It was pretty normal, and Puff was cool. Nothing out of the ordinary happened. I did what I had to do, and I was out.
DX: So, technically fans have never heard the original version of “Last Day” that you did with Biggie?
Havoc: Yeah, the final is different, and Puff was pissed. He was literally pissed like, “Yo, I want the fukkin’ beat I paid for!” He was not playing. And I was like, “Yo, shyt got misplaced…” And that’s enough to make you not even be fukkin’ part of the project. That’s enough to make someone say, “You know what? fukk it. Give me my money back.” But he had faith in me. I did the beat over, and that didn’t happen.
DX: That’s pretty wild. We’re coming up on the 20th anniversary of Juvenile Hell. What’s the biggest difference with Havoc from 1993 through 2013?
Havoc: I’m a bit more critical of the music I do. Back then, it was really untapped energy. I wasn’t really worried about what would play on the radio, and I was just doing music. More and more, as you get into the industry, you get that pressure of radio. Now I’m in a zone where I don’t give a fukk about radio no more. I would appreciate it, but these days, it’s just like, “Let me just do what I do.” I don’t have that pressure anymore, and it actually feels good.
Totally agree. No matter how dope a Mobb joint is, any video from them in 2014 is just going to be "another Mobb Deep video." If they made a really gritty video with Waterboarding I think it could go over well, but this was the best choice IMO.
Someone was telling me they wish the beat was a little harder since it was Mobb and Lox but this beat fit perfectly IMO, definitely had a 90's feel with the sample. Don't get me wrong though. Would of loved a 90's Hav beat with Mobb and The Lox. This is the closest we going to get to that:
Still wished Hav and P got on this in the 90's. I mean Hav did produce it. Would of been fire with Big, Lox and Mobb Deep:
I'll try to find a link for the source, but the fukked up thing is that Prodigy was offered to be on it and declined. Maybe that's not how it went down, but he said that he definitely could've been on the song. I think he said that he didn't think it would be that dope? I wish I could remember why he didn't do it. yeah like you said, Hav already did the beat, so Mobb, LOX, and Biggie on a Hell on Earth era instrumental could have made this arguably the GOAT NYC posse joint.
Here's some stuff about Havoc losing the beat for Last Day and having to remake it.
at Puffy saying "i want the fukking beat I paid for!" Havoc Says The Original Version Of Notorious B.I.G.’s “Last Day” Was Lost
DX: Going back to your statement about holding New York down, what do you remember most about working with B.I.G. and The Lox on “Last Day?”
Havoc: [Diddy] commissioned me to do a track for him. Back in those days, we recorded on reel to reel [tapes], and somehow the original track got lost. I don’t know how—I guess somebody maybe was hatin’ or some shyt. But I had to do another track that sounded similar to the one that you hear now. I remember being in the studio doing the track, and [The Notorious] B.I.G. was in the other room recording. I remember Puff coming in there, and just making sure everything was smooth. It was pretty normal, and Puff was cool. Nothing out of the ordinary happened. I did what I had to do, and I was out.
DX: So, technically fans have never heard the original version of “Last Day” that you did with Biggie?
Havoc: Yeah, the final is different, and Puff was pissed. He was literally pissed like, “Yo, I want the fukkin’ beat I paid for!” He was not playing. And I was like, “Yo, shyt got misplaced…” And that’s enough to make you not even be fukkin’ part of the project. That’s enough to make someone say, “You know what? fukk it. Give me my money back.” But he had faith in me. I did the beat over, and that didn’t happen.
DX: That’s pretty wild. We’re coming up on the 20th anniversary of Juvenile Hell. What’s the biggest difference with Havoc from 1993 through 2013?
Havoc: I’m a bit more critical of the music I do. Back then, it was really untapped energy. I wasn’t really worried about what would play on the radio, and I was just doing music. More and more, as you get into the industry, you get that pressure of radio. Now I’m in a zone where I don’t give a fukk about radio no more. I would appreciate it, but these days, it’s just like, “Let me just do what I do.” I don’t have that pressure anymore, and it actually feels good.
