Vince Staples - Summertime '06 (Discussion Thread) *Stream*

[ogc163]

his 2nd verse was the hardest shyt i heard in iono how long all the way real

the first 20 minutes of this interview got more insight on the reality of things than 98% of the interviews by any "conscious" rapper and there won't be a thread on it

STAPLES: It's not even that. It's past that. Before that. You wake up. You see your mom go to work. You go to school. You come home. You hate your life some more. You go back to school. Your friend has a birthday party. His house is bigger than yours. Now he can never come to your house, cause you live in the back of your aunt's house, across the street from the oil refinery in a gang-infested neighborhood where everyone is related to you. So you're embarrassed about that. You go home, do your homework.

Your mom comes home, makes nothing, tries to figure out how to make you not realize that you're poor. Because where I live at, the state that I live at, an apartment in a bad neighborhood is $800, $900 a month, for one bedroom. That's a lot of money if you getting paid minimum wage. But your kid has to have the nice shoes cause he has to deal with the other kids, or he gotta go to the school where they have the uniforms. But you have to pay for that, too, so you're not really running from anything.

So you're spending your whole life trying to catch up to something that you don't know why you're chasing and trying to disguise your kids from something that they already noticed, based on their own interactions. That's the beginning of life. That's before you have bills — as a kid — and before you have to pay taxes. That's before you're elderly and you can't take care of your own self. So my question is, with all these things in your way before the phones, before interactions with other people that could be negative, you trying to scramble for no apparent reason. When do you have time to sit down and think? This is before the Internet.

I have never been impressed by a J.Cole, Lupe or Kendrick interview, they both come off as forced and trying to hard. But what I like about this kid, is that he is taking everyone at each angle to task, while not fronting as if he has all the answers or any answers at all.

 

[noumena]

He realized to draw a bigger audience he had to ditch the monotone flow and add more energy. Subject matter wise and skill wise more or less the same

He mentioned in an interview needing songs he could perform at a concert.

You really can't perform shyt like Versace Rap for an hour plus

I'm not hating on the whole album. I feel like he's just toned shyt down a little bit from his older stuff. I'm not just saying "I liked his old sound more." It's that his newer stuff is just hit-or-miss. Like Poitier said, Vince HAS gotten worse as he's gotten bigger. He did an entire tape with Cac Miller that was mostly like garbage save a few songs. Hell Can Wait was about half good. Listen to Shyne Coldchain. Every song was good. His beat selection was great too. Now he's flowing all weird, like trying to be too hooky or something.



Now, not only is his beat selection hit-or-miss, his raps have fallen off too. Is the subject matter the same? Yeah. Skill-wise? yeah. But, he's not bringing what made me a fan in the first place.

Some cuts on the new album are good though. Lift me up, norf norf, surf, birds and bees (besides that hook), CNB, and maybe 2 or 3 more

 

[Super Future Luther King Jr.]

Fucc I still need to check this out

Finally got a chance to peep this all the way thru

Tomorrow morning the drive test to the gym then the gym test itself but out the Beats thru the MacBook yeah it's hitting

Some of these tracks I feel could've been laced up not BETTER by other artists just different...

But a lot of yall been posting the dope quotables and I can definitely cut for him with that

Dude can spit

Overall it's always dope to have a young cat to look out for

Between a few singles I heard before and now this I'll be checking to see what he has in the future

 

[Black Ball]

From the city where the skinny carry strong heat, Northside Long Beach

NORTHSIDE LONG BEACH

Wait this nikka reppin the Norf? Zero you from the Norf? nikka I'm from the Norf

 

[ECA]

The Winter in Prague stuff is lowkey trash.

The SC series, Hell Can Wait and this album tho

 

[noumena]

The Winter in Prague stuff is lowkey trash.

The SC series, Hell Can Wait and this album tho

How can you not fukk with this

those synths Vince is on some

 

[Zero]

Wait this nikka reppin the Norf? Zero you from the Norf? nikka I'm from the Norf

Nah, that's just the hook for the song

I'm from VA

 

[Black Ball]

Nah, that's just the hook for the song

I'm from VA

nikka it seemed like you was pretty damn hyped up by that shyt though. Anyway how is this album? Would you say it's his best project to date?

 

[RebelX]

Dope interview

 

[Zero]

nikka it seemed like you was pretty damn hyped up by that shyt though. Anyway how is this album? Would you say it's his best project to date?

The album is great. I went from only listening to this dude on features to downloading his discography

I have them but I still need to listen to Shyne Coldchain 1 and 2....I've had 06 and Hell Can Wait on repeat all week

 

[eerieBell]

The album is great. I went from only listening to this dude on features to downloading his discography

I have them but I still need to listen to Shyne Coldchain 1 and 2....I've had 06 and Hell Can Wait on repeat all week

Go with Shyne Coldchain 2, it's way better. Progressive 3 is probably the best Vince Staples track there is. Evidence made that beat.

While SC 1 is his weakest project to date.

 

[KOohbt]

this shyt is PIFF. 2015

 

[Patrick Kane]

I know a change gon' come like Obama and em' say,
But they shootin' everyday where my momma and em' stay,
So we left at an AK at where Kianna and em stay,
And that's for any nikka say he got a problem with me

Vince on this album.

 

[NotaPAWG]

STAPLES: It's not even that. It's past that. Before that. You wake up. You see your mom go to work. You go to school. You come home. You hate your life some more. You go back to school. Your friend has a birthday party. His house is bigger than yours. Now he can never come to your house, cause you live in the back of your aunt's house, across the street from the oil refinery in a gang-infested neighborhood where everyone is related to you. So you're embarrassed about that. You go home, do your homework.

Your mom comes home, makes nothing, tries to figure out how to make you not realize that you're poor. Because where I live at, the state that I live at, an apartment in a bad neighborhood is $800, $900 a month, for one bedroom. That's a lot of money if you getting paid minimum wage. But your kid has to have the nice shoes cause he has to deal with the other kids, or he gotta go to the school where they have the uniforms. But you have to pay for that, too, so you're not really running from anything.

So you're spending your whole life trying to catch up to something that you don't know why you're chasing and trying to disguise your kids from something that they already noticed, based on their own interactions. That's the beginning of life. That's before you have bills — as a kid — and before you have to pay taxes. That's before you're elderly and you can't take care of your own self. So my question is, with all these things in your way before the phones, before interactions with other people that could be negative, you trying to scramble for no apparent reason. When do you have time to sit down and think? This is before the Internet.

I have never been impressed by a J.Cole, Lupe or Kendrick interview, they both come off as forced and trying to hard. But what I like about this kid, is that he is taking everyone at each angle to task, while not fronting as if he has all the answers or any answers at all.

Quoting to say this is one of the realist things I've ever heard/read in an interview.

As a kid who came from a family of generations of poverty and living in a roach infested apt, then going to middle school and being around kids wearing more expensive clothing (hollister and Abercrombie were what we deemed as "expensive") and me wearing Walmart, k mart, and hand me down clothing and cheap ass Payless shoes and bein made fun of for it, and embarrassed to have friends over i definitely could relate to that. Luckily, my parents did the best they could with what we had and now are considered middle class but that feeling really sucked.

 

[45123]

This and the Miguel album has made for an excellent summer so far musically

Its weird how Vince Staples' content is so street-filled yet his audience mainly isn't of that fabric