Virginia African American Lt Gov Accused of Rape

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What's the point in voting if you believe we need to vote in line with racists?

Wtf is your point? Everyone should vote whether it’s for Kampala or whoever. I’m just being realistic that the black vote is not as important as the white vote to these politicians. If you’re offended by that then I do t know what to tell you.
 

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I think we will be viewing more disturbing videos and live-videos.

I just think that we will be more in shock to find out one of favorite person or persons has some serious skeletons in their closet.

Just think about if you found out your fav high school teacher was a sick pedophile. Then you starting hearing all the various women stories. That shyt would fukk you up.

Watchin parts of Bill Cosby deposition were he admitted druggin women had me like..:picard::mindblown:


Don't believe he admitted to drugging women, he admitted to giving them drugs ...its going to happen again and again, all these girls using molly will emerge from their slut histories and discuss how such and such person assaulted them and drugged them.

Consensual is no longer the bar
 

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People always say this, but if you're the victim of a crime and have to see someone's name in the news everyday, and then other victims come forward, it's more likely you'll feel like you have some support coming forward. Visibility during an election or nomination or high profile event is gonna raise the likelihood that the victim has to relive or at least think about what you did even more than normal. It's not wonder then that when people get their most press and/or other victims come forward, more victims come out. It doesn't mean they aren't credible. Besides both of these women told their friends about the rapes years before he almost became governor.

I feel bad for saying that, because no one rapes in broad day light or on camera, and without a rape kit, it becomes her story vs his. However ts hard to not to say in a case where there's a political hit on the governor and breh could potentially assume governor in an election year. I mean why we just hearing about this now:rudy:. Dude been a Lt Gov for a minute, he's been in spotlight for a min. Doing campaign rallies and what not, so it cant be said that he wasn't in the news till now.

Also, getting corroborators aint nothing really. Assuming, she's getting paid for this, it ain't nothing to break off some bread to one of her friends. If she told her parents or an elder relative then I would more likely to believe.

I'm gonna seem cold blooded for saying this, but if its being more than 5 years and the accused is about to get their come up, casting serious doubt on the accusation is warranted, unless serious receipts can be provided:manny:
 

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I feel bad for saying that, because no one rapes in broad day light or on camera, and without a rape kit, it becomes her story vs his. However ts hard to not to say in a case where there's a political hit on the governor and breh could potentially assume governor in an election year. I mean why we just hearing about this now:rudy:. Dude been a Lt Gov for a minute, he's been in spotlight for a min. Doing campaign rallies and what not, so it cant be said that he wasn't in the news till now.

Also, getting corroborators aint nothing really. Assuming, she's getting paid for this, it ain't nothing to break off some bread to one of her friends. If she told her parents or an elder relative then I would more likely to believe.

I'm gonna seem cold blooded for saying this, but if its being more than 5 years and the accused is about to get their come up, casting serious doubt on the accusation is warranted, unless serious receipts can be provided:manny:

The same argument could be said for the victims of the priest abuse scandals (over 30 years have past for many of them), and the US Olympics doctor, and hundreds of other #MeToo claims where no one is seeking financial payouts. I think it's funny no one cares about proof unless it's a guy they like. Then they want more proof. What kind of receipts would a victim of rape have if they didn't have video or a rape kit done?

Also, she's not getting paid for this, she's been saying this to her friends for years, her friends and family have come forward and confirmed this.
 

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She's a highly respect academic, she is a tenured professor, and this will devastate her life. There is no "bag" here, there is no money here.

A long hard road of death threats and accusations. She didn't wake up in February 2019 and decide to cash out a 25 year career to falsely accuse someone. It's absurd.
 

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The same argument could be said for the victims of the priest abuse scandals (over 30 years have past for many of them), and the US Olympics doctor, and hundreds of other #MeToo claims where no one is seeking financial payouts. I think it's funny no one cares about proof unless it's a guy they like. Then they want more proof. What kind of receipts would a victim of rape have if they didn't have video or a rape kit done?

Also, she's not getting paid for this, she's been saying this to her friends for years, her friends and family have come forward and confirmed this.

Fair, fair, if her friends and family can corroborate this, then it gives the accusation a lot more credence:ehh:

However lets not act some of those examples you’re posting have the same characteristics as an accusation such as this.

Priest abuses usually deal with kids, so we can completely understand their fear to report to the authorities.

The difference between a typical metoo and this accusation is the timing. Giving the circumstances, we’re gonna act like this isn’t mad convenient timing:skip:. We gon act like politics isn’t dirty asf. Even the Kavanaugh ish seemed convenient too, and I detest republicans.

In all of this, I’m not throwing out her accusation as ludicrous, but it puts guys in the court of public opinion in a tough spot, cuz we’ve all heard about false accusation cases where guys get thrown in jail with just accuser’s testimony. So when a nikka is finally tryna his shine, someone comes along and says he acted inappropriately, he’s potentially facing the gauntlet, it’s not hard to be sympathetic. Again, I cannot say she’s lying, I don’t have the evidence to support that claim, but timing of the accusation raises eyebrows.



She's a highly respect academic, she is a tenured professor, and this will devastate her life. There is no "bag" here, there is no money here.

A long hard road of death threats and accusations. She didn't wake up in February 2019 and decide to cash out a 25 year career to falsely accuse someone. It's absurd.

I didn’t know about death threats but you won’t see me acting it’s not possible for that to have happened, but I don’t know why you’re acting it’s impossible for payola to be involved here. Not like there isn’t motive for the opposing party to behind given the circumstances. Not like the opposing party wouldn’t find someone like a professor with credibility to lodge the claim as opposed to a random hooker on the street. You don’t think everyone has price. If there was money involved, wouldn’t it be some back channel, clandestine shyt? How would it be common knowledge without a smoking gun?:heh:. So how is that absurd possibility?
 
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That two black women, academics, serious people, who just happened to cross paths with Fairfax over 15 years ago, 15 years establishing themselves and their reputations, and supported by their peers and communities, would be "co opted" or "turned" by Republican "dark arts/Roger Stone" types is entirely laughable. It's preposterous.

I would bet the house she, and the other accuse have already received dozens of death threats, as did Blasley Ford, and many, of not all women who accuse high profile men of rape/sexual assault/misconduct.
 

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She's a highly respect academic, she is a tenured professor, and this will devastate her life. There is no "bag" here, there is no money here.

A long hard road of death threats and accusations. She didn't wake up in February 2019 and decide to cash out a 25 year career to falsely accuse someone. It's absurd.
Exactly, it's insulting for people to think otherwise.

A couple of my family members were sexually assaulted, and they still regularly cope with trauma from the past. I feel like in past it was worse for women, because there were less platforms and channels to go to for help.

If you've been around sexual assault victims, then you know simply opening up about the past is a struggle within itself.

I'm pretty sure a tenured professor, who's been through a career of training regarding sexual assault / harassment and inappropriate behavior procedures, has no problem identify sexual assault if it occured.
 

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That two black women, academics, serious people, who just happened to cross paths with Fairfax over 15 years ago, 15 years establishing themselves and their reputations, and supported by their peers and communities, would be "co opted" or "turned" by Republican "dark arts/Roger Stone" types is entirely laughable. It's preposterous.

I would bet the house she, and the other accuse have already received dozens of death threats, as did Blasley Ford, and many, of not all women who accuse high profile men of rape/sexual assault/misconduct.

From the way you’re talking, one would think that academics are above sin
 

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From the way you’re talking, one would think that academics are above sin
Jesus christ, some of you cats kill me. Not everything is a unified conspiracy. Too many people on here lack empathy. I doubt y'all would keep that same energy if your mother, wife, daughter, sister,girlfriend or "life partner" were sexually assaulted.
 

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Jesus christ, some of you cats kill me. Not everything is a unified conspiracy. Too many people on here lack empathy. I doubt y'all would keep that same energy if your mother, wife, daughter, sister,girlfriend or "life partner" were sexually assaulted.

Having suspicions is hardly a unified conspiracy and you know that. I acknowledged that her family and friends corroborating the story makes me think accusation is true, but @NobodyReally initially said it was just one friend, and I think one friend is kinda weak.

You’re right. I wouldn’t keep the same energy, they are my fam, it’s only makes sense that I would be biased in their favor. In jury selection, don’t they eliminate people who would be biased in either direction? Also, this is a public forum, you’re talking as though I’m sharing this with the family of the victim.

We don’t use empathy to administer justice, we weigh the evidence and make a decision. Im sorry if it seems cold to you. Rape is a serious charge and sensitive topic, and it only makes sense that to some, that raising suspicions on the credibility of the accuser would seem unempathetic, so I ain’t tripping if you feel that way
 
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Yeah, the thing is the "evidence", is entirely on the accusers side, without resorting to outlandish conspiracies, and "well you never know" style logic. Come up with a credible scenario, even a plausible one, where both these women have invented these stories. But, the truth is I doubt the sincerity of some of these posters. I think they are "alt right".
 
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Yeah, the thing is the "evidence", is entirely on the accusers side, without resorting to outlandish conspiracies, and "well you never know" style logic. Come up with a credible scenario, even a plausible one, where both these women have invented these stories. But, the truth is I doubt the sincerity of some of these accounts.

See, that's where I disagree. Maybe in the court of public opinion, but in a court of law, the perpetrator has the law on his/her side. You have to have DNA, witnesses, video tape, a medical record and even then the victim is asked why they were where they were or wearing what they were wearing or saying what they were saying that led to their rape. It's really hard to prove rape because it does take place in private and many victims are too ashamed to go to the hospital and officials get a rape kit or report it to the police.
 

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This isn't a criminal trial or proceeding though. He won't be charged criminally. It won't even be considered. And honestly, if they had gone to the police back THEN, they had a long shot of getting him charged. Rape is a hard case to prove, when it is not "stranger rape", or where they suspect is stalking and attacking strangers, happens to get caught.

We don't have DNA, we don't have eyewitnesses, whatever, but we have a scenario that we can evaluate, as best we are able to. Asking victims to provide proof, of things that are difficult or impossible to "prove" or else they cannot tell their story is outrageous. She should just keep quiet, because she doesn't have the Hilton hotel footage of the lobby in 2004? Or the semen from 2000?
 
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