JulesMusic719
All Star
Call people tethers and act like New York neighborhoods were completely segregated in the 1970s idiot brehs
Vlad and Math Hoffa double down on hating FBA. Microphone Check movie wasn’t accurate to them.
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Plankton
Superstar
The real info is out there. The Founding Fathers documentary came out in 2011 and none of those names you mentioned are in the mix of the creation of Hip Hop. You are obviously out of the loop and just saying anything.
These are either young people, or people who had nothing to do with the Bronx Boys and NY.
I remember Daddy O from Stetsasonic had to explain and excuse himself for Miami Bass.
Ok white boy\
The real info is out there. The Founding Fathers documentary came out in 2011 and none of those names you mentioned are in the mix of the creation of Hip Hop. You are obviously out of the loop and just saying anything.
The Bronx isn't a vacuum my guy
Back in the 70s how many Black people from the Bronx had parents/grandparents or were themself born in the South. Cut it out
nikkas talking bout New Yawk as this cultural melting pot while discredting its Black Southern diaspora like you didn't have a country bumpkin from North Carolina and his cousins running the dope game in THE CITY back in the 70s
You'll always conveniently leave info like that out cause it don't fit your little New York is a melting pot so everyone created hip hop narrative
to shoehorn in that Jamaican lie......There was segregation in terms of White Flight. White gangs attacking Black people. This is well documented.
The civil rights movement was instrumental in self awareness. This is why the Black Spades was organized in NY, the way the Black Panthers was organized at the West Coast.
Well almost nothing is created in a vacuum frankly the whole argument is stupid and at the end of the day Lucian Grange makes damn near all the money from Black music in it’s entirety.
shyt to both sides it Al Anderson a Black American who used to play for Stevie Wonder worked for Bob Marley To this day Dancehall DJ’s cover american songs.
One thing that Dancehall does that Rap doesn’t it is they routinely bush people that try to cross over.
You never hear Sean Paul or Shaggy at a real Dance. Even when Shabba crossed over he was shadow bushed.
Dancehall makes almost zero money but they generally do a better job of gatekeeping the culture.
A nikka took evidence of Me saying my family was from Brooklyn as evidence of me being non FBA and this was two native new yorkers saying this.The Bronx isn't a vacuum my guy
Back in the 70s how many Black people from the Bronx had parents/grandparents or were themself born in the South. Cut it out
I already state that most if not all pioneer have origin in the South in many other conversations we had on here.The Bronx isn't a vacuum my guy
Back in the 70s how many Black people from the Bronx had parents/grandparents or were themself born in the South. Cut it out
We even have done studies on demography and migrations from the South to the North, NY.
Most in particular came from the Carolinas.
It could be that certain subgroups from the South moved to certain spots on NY. That could be a possibility that has not been researched.
I’ll look up these threads later.
Where was everybody when Just Ice made this? The pioneers approved it at the time.
Just Ice - Going Way Back
[Intro: Just Ice and KRS One]
To the best of my knowledge I guess that I'm fresh
And when I manifest I never protest
(Hold it, hold it. What's going on, Just?)
Yo KRS, what's the, what's the, what's the purpose of you stopping me?
(Yo man kick the rhymes you was just kicking to me a while ago)
Aight
[Verse 1: Just Ice]
I'll wax and maim, rappers who proclaim
To be the epitome of this game
Fronting like you hard, rugged and rough
Soft like butter, creamy like a puff
On the mic no sense, head very dense
Just listen to the gangster and I will convince
All that doubt my power of speech
The title of the gangster they tried to impeach
But um, it is protected by the black and the red
It's not true all gangsters are dead
Not a gangster with a gun, doing crime none of that
Kill a MC with the rhyme cause I'm the gangster of rap
In fact, exact, I'm the dominant black
Coming full force on, and power that's packed
For all the party people this is a fact
For all the pioneers I'm going way back
[Bridge: KRS One]
Goddamn, that is funky funky funky fresh (Dope! Dope!)
If you could just keep kicking that, we'll be alright til '88
Dig it (Dope! Dope!)
[Verse 2: Just Ice]
Going way way back to the early days
Of 75 and the Black Spades
Chilling with my homeboy Muscle Man Ron
In the Boogie Down Bronx BKA Pelan
It was a privilege for people to see
Bambaataa rocking hard at 123
On a Friday night the boys would come running
To hear big beats that were shocking and stunning
In the Hill, not a thing was chill
Sound Masters on the loose and acting ill
Up top, every weekend rock
Either 131 or around that block
But anywhere Uptown, you always heard the sound
Hip Hop, funky beats, MCs getting down
The truth I swear, admit and declare
The Bronx was the first, I know, I was there
The beats were dope, the sound was on
By the way saying Peace to my brother Melquan
Dedications have a little bit more
The L Brothers, Grand Wizard Theodore
I can't forget where we used to ill
With the young Sound Masters in Castle Hill
I can keep going on, for more and more
With Breakout, and Baron, and the Funky 4
On the other side of town, the mics in their hands
The lecherous, treacherous also perpetuous MCs cold in command
And if you listen to that for an actual fact
For all the pioneers I'm going way back
[Bridge: KRS One]
Word! Now you know I know
This is KRS with Just Ice (Dope! Dope!)
Ha ha. Talk about dope beats (Dope!)
Yo Just, kick me one more verse, please!
[Verse 3: Just Ice]
Let's rest, so I can take a breath
Cause I'm bearing the truth and nothing less
No disrepect intended but I have to show ya
If I didn't say your name that means I did not know ya
To get to the point, to make it clear
If I don't say your name that means you was not there
It's true, I'm from the old school
I'm the professor and they are my pupils
I teach and never preach
Not a bloodsucker, parasite or a leech
I'm telling you how, it was or is
The Bronx is the home for the Hip Hop kids
A long time ago when I was raising hell
With the nappy head of hair at the age of 12
I saw and heard, crews that rocked
The Cold Crushers, Monsters, Breakout, Sasquatch
You're not familiar with the funky sound
That proves it right there, you wasn't down
Had to earn a position, and do hard work
You can ask Kool Herc or my man Red Alert
He'll tell ya, because he knows for sure
About Flash, EZ Mike, and the Furious Four
I'll run off some names, with no offence
Listen up real close, as I commence
Coke La Rock, Clark Kent, my man Cool Fish
Homeboy Tre Dee and Frisky Frisk
Wonderful sincere, in the atmosphere
Almighty Kay Gee at Union Square
Dr. Kik rock on, and my man Shelt La Rocker
B.I., KRS, C Rasta
Definitely we would rock
And I can't forget my homeboy Big Knot
It's the truth and for an actual fact
For all the pioneers I'm going way back
[Outro: KRS One and Just Ice]
Well I think that's about as far back as we can go
(Saying peace to my man T La Rock!)
Word! Saying peace to my brother Scott La Rock, he's in here!
(Scott La Rock rock on!)
Word
(DMX peace!)
Peace!
(Peace!)
Plankton
Superstar
Ok white boy
This is why I keep saying Hip Hop discussions need to stay out of the Locker Room because most of ya'll don't know the history. Once one of you get exposed for not knowing the history you reply with dumb nonsense like this.
Let me also add that DJ King Charles was Jamaican born and he came before Herc in 1968. DJ King Charles dispels the myth that Hip Hop was created by just FBA's so yeah, Tariqs documentary is inaccurate because he purposely left King Charles out of his biased documentary, But you and most of the posters on The Coli never even saw Tariqs documentary so you can't properly rebut anything I said.
You put on your Clarkes and cake soap with that one rudebwoy
This mfer said DJ King Charles
Post me one DJ King Charles hook,sample,or song I'll wait. If not then don't quote me no more real spill you just typing nonsense
In all this talk about who created Hip Hop the orginators are broke.
Seen the lightskinned Breh from Stetsasonic Handing out tools from the Shipyard in Portsmouth.
In The Zone '98
Superstar
Only people in their 60s- 70s can speak on the origins of hip hop with any accuracy
Plankton
Superstar
You put on your Clarkes and cake soap with that one rudebwoy
This mfer said DJ King Charles
Post me one DJ King Charles hook,sample,or song I'll wait. If not then don't quote me no more real spill you just typing nonsense
LOL. the fact that you asked for a DJ King Charles hook or sample further confirms you don't know the history and don't know what you are talking about.
All you did in this thread was expose that you don't know the history.
