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That nikka
nikka..we aint tryna hear all that extra stuff..drop them cliffs on snitching..and bout the clipse lol.
Vlad TV interview with The Clipse former manager Anthony "Geezy" Gonzalez
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killed it.. shyt sound just like him.
murksiderock
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100%...
And that's dope, what year was that you spoke to someone who knew Push?
The YouTube comments are funny, there's that mixed bag of people who are taking Geezy's word at face value and the other half saying Clipse was in the field...
The one thing I wish, and I've been vocal about this as a longtime fan of Clipse, is that Push matured his music and toned down the cocaine imagery years ago. After awhile his music became redundant and there are instances, in my opinion, he got a little too illustrative with the imagery...
But living in The Beach, I never met anyone close to their age who was in the field themselves who didn't validate the Thornton bros. They were eating before they blew up big, cats told me about they rides and how they flossed. Not a single person told me they were heavyweights, and not a single person told me they weren't touching something...
Living there, you either meet people who know of them directly or indirectly who tell you, "they were around here trapping", or people who don't know anything and tell you "I don't know anything about what they were or weren't doing". The people I've seen online who have said they never moved anything tend to be from the outside areas (Norfolk, Newport News, etc) who wouldn't have firsthand knowledge anyway, and really in person the people from other cities I met just say they don't know Beach politics, I only hear the other people denying they were ever in it online...
murksiderock
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Lmao and at any rate, it was already pointed out Geezy in his own words met the Thorntons via their early music on dealing. Music couldn't 95% be based on him anyway because they woulda had an up close look at how their cousins were running Bridle Creek, what percentage do they get in Geezy's mind? Hahaha...
And in his own words, he said Push was "more street", based on what, if they copied his life 95%? Because neither of the Thorntons were scammers, or jackboys sticking nikkas up, or shooters, none of those characteristics are mentioned about Clipse at all, by anyone. So in what fashion was Push even somewhat "street"?
For sure they probably took elements of what they heard/saw Tony and his associates doing, in their later music they did embellish the amount of work they were touching. Geezy giving himself a little too much credit with the 95% though lol...
And in his own words, he said Push was "more street", based on what, if they copied his life 95%? Because neither of the Thorntons were scammers, or jackboys sticking nikkas up, or shooters, none of those characteristics are mentioned about Clipse at all, by anyone. So in what fashion was Push even somewhat "street"?
For sure they probably took elements of what they heard/saw Tony and his associates doing, in their later music they did embellish the amount of work they were touching. Geezy giving himself a little too much credit with the 95% though lol...
So pusha went from rapping lyrics about another mans life..to snitching on nikkas having kids
this who y’all respect ?
this who y’all respect ?
It was 2013, the guy who was in the feds, or just got out, I think he had known of Pusha and Geezy, I don't think close, just in the same streets together at the same time. He did say Pusha wasn't hustling in high school, and I remember laughing and saying so I was doing more than Push at age 17? You can hear the Geezy stuff in the music, like a Panama reference here and there on Lord Wilin, that is for sure a Geezy detail. What rapper didn't use some of their big homies/influences lives?
murksiderock
Superstar
100%, they pretty much all do...
I always looked at them, they pulled from a number of real life sources. Their mom and her side of the family is from Diggs Town:
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Which is a project area about 7½ miles away from where they grew up in Bridle Creek. The book on her was spoken of in their music, and validated by people I met, that their grandma ended up in New York in the first place because she was a mule. So their mom and her siblings grew up around that, then supposedly grandma and/or mom found Jesus and they relocated back to Virginia Beach...
So they had influences of knowing their grandma was a mule, their mom is street smart and her side of the family has a reputation as being roughnecks, I always looked at it as all if that and their cousins influenced them. And of course, Geezy...
It was never really a debate as far as I'm concerned, unrelated people validated that they got their hands dirty but weren't weight men. It really wasn't until the issues with Drake struck up that I started hearing people from all over questioning whether they were involved at all. There were always a handful of internet people from outside the city, in surrounding cities, who questioned them, but there were different dynamics to those issues. As you mentioned they embellished shyt like most other rappers...
murksiderock
Superstar
Yep, when cats knew a little about their family and broke it down, this appears to be rooted in truth. Again, told to me by a couple different people...
ReasonableMatic
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These are the days of our lives and I'm sorry to the fans
But them CRACKAS weren't playin' fair at Jive
- Pusha T (Mr. Me Too)
The Clipse ends tumultuous tenure at Jive
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My nikka tony draper helped the clipse drop a album
I feel like virginia was about him if true