Vox Media Fires Hundreds of Freelance Writers, Blaming California's 'Gig Economy' Law

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Vox Media Fires Hundreds of Freelance Writers, Blaming California's 'Gig Economy' Law



Vox Media will end contracts with about 200 people, including non-California freelancers who cover teams based in the state, and replace them with 20 new part-time and full-time staffers, according to a source familiar with the decision... In a memo to 2,000 SB Nation contractors scattered across the country -- most of whom will not be affected by the changes -- Ness explained that, under the law, California freelance writers can maintain their status as independent contractors only if they submit no more than 35 pieces per year. Given the pace of sports blogging, many of the writers producing work for SB Nation's California blogs would easily hit that benchmark, the source said. Ness wrote in the memo that California contractors were encouraged to apply for full-time or part-time positions. For those who do not snag a job but want to keep contributing, Ness wrote that "they need to understand they will not be paid for future contributions."

The changes will also affect Curbed and Eater, two other Vox Media sites that employ a handful of freelancers in the state...

AB 5 was hailed as a victory by many Uber, Lyft and DoorDash workers who have protested slashed wages and arbitrary terminations, but it has brought fear for some who worry the law means they will have less flexibility in the hours they can work and restrict their ability to work for multiple platforms... Freelancers also have voiced fears that AB 5 will discourage employers from hiring Californians to avoid additional paperwork and legal liabilities that come with the law, and smaller newspapers and websites may not have the resources to convert freelancers to staff members.
 

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So it seems like a bunch of people lost their shytty side gig that didn't have a prayer of supporting them, and in return more people are going to get actual real jobs?

If there was only 20-30 jobs worth of work there, then those 200 people who were fired must have been making peanuts, not to mention lacking health insurance and other benefits. A lot of them may well have been doing fine in their day jobs and were just submitting sports articles for play money.
 

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How does taking away their side gig(giving them fewer options) make them better off?
If 20-30 of those people have a real, paid job that they can build a family on and work benefits that go along with it, then that benefit is much greater than 180 other people having small side gigs that give them nothing more than pocket money and no benefits.
 

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If 20-30 of those people have a real, paid job that they can build a family on and work benefits that go along with it, then that benefit is much greater than 180 other people having small side gigs that give them nothing more than pocket money and no benefits.
The 150 or so left with less than they had before may disagree with you...:usure:

edit: and Vox's product may(I believe it will) suffer... which could lead to even more people including those you've sought to help being left with less...:usure:
 

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The 150 or so left with less than they had before may disagree with you...:usure:

edit: and Vox's product may(I believe it will) suffer... which could lead to even more people including those you've sought to help being left with less...:usure:

Having a specialized group of people dedicated to a job full-time versus a mob of people submitting articles in their free time will likely lead to better content, not worse. You're going to have thought-out and developed work that progresses rather than just the superficial hot-takes that come from part-timers. Why do you think that people do better work as side gigs?
 

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Having a specialized group of people dedicated to a job full-time versus a mob of people submitting articles in their free time will likely lead to better content, not worse. You're going to have thought-out and developed work that progresses rather than just the superficial hot-takes that come from part-timers. Why do you think that people do better work as side gigs?
I'd think more content to choose from, from varied sources/perspectives surely generates a superior product.
If Vox is diminished, and more people are screwed im sure progressives like yourself will just claim it was for the best... :hubie:



 

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For some, that was one of many places they wrote articles for.
Now they have one less employer and have to compete harder for the remaining article slots available to fee lancers with the others who got screwed by this.
A decent job is not always what YOU think a decent job is.
Not everyone wants to be a wage slave stuck to a single big corporation. As freelancers they had choice of what they wrote, who they wrote for, how much time they spent writing, and what they got paid for it. Now they're just screwed.
Also screwed are people who occasionally write an article on the side for easy cash. Can't do that anymore.
 

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For some, that was one of many places they wrote articles for.
Now they have one less employer and have to compete harder for the remaining article slots available to fee lancers with the others who got screwed by this.
A decent job is not always what YOU think a decent job is.
Not everyone wants to be a wage slave stuck to a single big corporation. As freelancers they had choice of what they wrote, who they wrote for, how much time they spent writing, and what they got paid for it. Now they're just screwed.
Also screwed are people who occasionally write an article on the side for easy cash. Can't do that anymore.
Did I misread or aren't they still allowed to submit 35 articles a year. That's just better than an article every 2 weeks.
So people doing multiple gigs may have to reshuffle, but they still have the Vox option, not so? The nature of multiple gigs often means changes.
 

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Did I misread or aren't they still allowed to submit 35 articles a year. That's just better than an article every 2 weeks.
So people doing multiple gigs may have to reshuffle, but they still have the Vox option, not so? The nature of multiple gigs often means changes.
Those who were making a decent living through quantity, must now tie them self to a one employer.
Hopefully they don't net less as a full time employee...:mjcry:
But I suspect more than half of those 20-30 hired are only part time...

:yeshrug:This seems like a big win for competitors based outside the state.
California continues its descent.
 

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For some, that was one of many places they wrote articles for.
Now they have one less employer and have to compete harder for the remaining article slots available to fee lancers with the others who got screwed by this.
A decent job is not always what YOU think a decent job is.
Not everyone wants to be a wage slave stuck to a single big corporation. As freelancers they had choice of what they wrote, who they wrote for, how much time they spent writing, and what they got paid for it. Now they're just screwed.
Also screwed are people who occasionally write an article on the side for easy cash. Can't do that anymore.
If this is just "one of many places" or "occasionally write an article on the side for easy cash", they can still do that. They don't have to be a wage slave to one corp. This is about people who are treated like employees by workload but not in stability and benefits.

You are exaggerating how much choice such high-volume "freelancers" have. Freelancers getting such regular work are either one of the few who are incredibly good at their job or are under quite strong pressure to produce when asked, or they won't be getting offered any more work. When I made it through college partially through work at a temp agency, I was explicitly told that the reason I was getting regular work was because I agreed to do everything. Once I started saying no, my work offers dried up.

(And on at least one job I was clearly just taking someone else's full-time work away, being one of many rotating temp workers getting $6.50/hour with zero benefits for an $11/hour factory job that should have come with basic employment protections.)




Those who were making a decent living through quantity, must now tie them self to a one employer.
Hopefully they don't net less as a full time employee...:mjcry:
But I suspect more than half of those 20-30 hired are only part time...

:yeshrug:This seems like a big win for competitors based outside the state.
California continues its descent.
You have no evidence they were making a "decent living through quantity".

Vox is based in DC/NYC, so that's obviously irrelevant too.
 

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California's War on Gig Work Falls Hardest on Women | Ben Johnson



“Personally, while the extra income helps my family, it doesn’t break us to lose it. But I have literally HUNDREDS of amazing colleagues all across our network who DO rely on this money to help, and who are going to have to replace that income somewhere else, somehow. That sucks. So much,” Lawson wrote in the post, which was titled “California’s terrible AB5 came for me today, and I’m devastated.”

L.A.-based writer Nicole Clark wrote in a Twitter thread in October that it was unlikely AB 5 would force already understaffed publications to create more full-time positions when deprioritizing or letting go of California writers was a much easier and more cost-effective option for many companies. “#AB5 just fundamentally misunderstands how journalism works, and will probably hurt the most vulnerable in our community,” she tweeted.

Emma Gallegos, a freelance writer and editor in Bakersfield, said on Twitter that she studied for a copy editing test over the weekend only to find she didn’t qualify for a job at an unnamed company because she lived in California.

:mjcry:
 
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If 20-30 of those people have a real, paid job that they can build a family on and work benefits that go along with it, then that benefit is much greater than 180 other people having small side gigs that give them nothing more than pocket money and no benefits.
But that’s not happening. Vox media doesn’t pay that well (58k for senior writers) and it’s California offices are in Los Angeles & San Francisco (According to its site) so we know that money isn’t going far in those places. I don’t see the way this helps.
 

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But that’s not happening. Vox media doesn’t pay that well (58k for senior writers) and it’s California offices are in Los Angeles & San Francisco (According to its site) so we know that money isn’t going far in those places. I don’t see the way this helps.
Gon need to work two jobs if you work for Vox just to survive in those cities
 
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