No the streets don’t determine what’s hot anymore.
Wack100 and birdman call BG a snitch
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murksiderock
Superstar
@Ineedmoney504 @NO-BadAzz and any other New Orleans posters, what are people think about BG at home? This matters to me more than what people not from there like Wack and the Texas nikkas on call think...
I'll never forget when I was in my early 20s, I had a conversation with my mom, I was less than a year out of prison. And in prison I was with all these old dudes who glorified their 90s, 80s, 70s era. And I was in my zone, so this is around 2010, and I remember chopping it up with my mom about some of these conversations with older guys...
My mom (who is now 57 years old, she woulda been around 44 when we had this convo) is second-generation from a widely known area called Oak Park, and she has a name herself, and she said, I'm paraphrasing: "man all them nikkas gassing the 80s lying. nikkas back then were snitching, nikkas back then were back-dooring they homies, nikkas were fakkits getting topped off by punks behind the laundromat then coming around acting like they were good. Alota the old ass nikkas talking were into some bullshyt, don't buy the hype these nikkas selling, I was there"...
I'll never forget this conversation, I was around 21 and wasn't as knowledgeable or seasoned as I am now. And you know what? Moms was right...
I would say even in my time outside there was more consequence behind a lot of stuff, but it wasnt a "no snitching" era. There was always guys who could get away with it!
No, rap is bigger than it ever was, the access to hearing rappers from all over the country is bigger than it ever was, but there is still only a minimum of rappers who were legit street cats. Most if these nikkas, as was always the case, are street-adjacent, they affiliates, they associates. Majority of these guys were never full-time outside, or had a name that mattered, these nikkas go online and flick up money sleeves and guns and rap the talk and nikkas think "man these new nikkas are with it"...
If all these nikkas were gangstas every city's homicide rate would be multiple times higher than what it is. If all these nikkas were hood rich before rap 95% of would never be rapping. I'm gonna tell you something I know, from nikkas I know who were fronting other guy's rap movements, alot of these nikkas be flexing with a)their RAP money or b)the guys behind the scenes' money, when they posting these bills on socials, in most of these cases these nikkas are not posting they own money from coming off the block....
It's even been told that nikkas have dummy bills, counterfeit money they be flexing. Rap has always been an image thing, it pays the bills to paint the image that all your money came from the trenches...
And alota these nikkas are a)flicking up with other nikkas poles or b)nikkas be waving round blammies but aren't shooters, because yes----->the streets have ALWAYS had nikkas outside who had guns, but were not shooters. It pays the bills to paint the image that you're a grave digger...
Half these nikkas histories of "beefs" started from online on social media, rather than being outside and running into situations with nikkas in traffic. I never once, not one time, ever had an issue with nikkas that began online. Ever, but a bunch of these new rappers got in a situation or few that started online, and nikkas gas it like some "street shyt"...
No nikka, that's some "digital shyt"
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Because there are more rappers today, there are more guys in general who were actually street dudes, in volume. That's easy math, more people, more street rappers, but I agree with you, it's not some substantially larger ratio/percentage of nikkas who are "street". These nikkas are STILL, most of em, friends to the nikkas who were really doing dirt, or part-time nikkas who were never doing anything noteworthy themselves. There's exceptions to every rule in life, some of these modern rappers were really from that cut, but it's not "most" and it's not even close to "most"...
My bad on the early morning rant, I'm back in Sacramento and it's going on 7 here my body still adjusting ti the time change, but any conversations about the validity of street rappers always gets me. Alot of us were really outside at a point in time, I can tell nikkas who pump faking and nikkas who were really outside. I can definitely tell when I'm in the same room with nikkas...
There was never really a "no snitching" era. Maybe there was a time there was more risk of consequence behind it but even in that time there was never no snitching...
I'll never forget when I was in my early 20s, I had a conversation with my mom, I was less than a year out of prison. And in prison I was with all these old dudes who glorified their 90s, 80s, 70s era. And I was in my zone, so this is around 2010, and I remember chopping it up with my mom about some of these conversations with older guys...
My mom (who is now 57 years old, she woulda been around 44 when we had this convo) is second-generation from a widely known area called Oak Park, and she has a name herself, and she said, I'm paraphrasing: "man all them nikkas gassing the 80s lying. nikkas back then were snitching, nikkas back then were back-dooring they homies, nikkas were fakkits getting topped off by punks behind the laundromat then coming around acting like they were good. Alota the old ass nikkas talking were into some bullshyt, don't buy the hype these nikkas selling, I was there"...
I'll never forget this conversation, I was around 21 and wasn't as knowledgeable or seasoned as I am now. And you know what? Moms was right...
I would say even in my time outside there was more consequence behind a lot of stuff, but it wasnt a "no snitching" era. There was always guys who could get away with it!
This is the issue. Why is this white boy running around unchecked, who does he know?
BG been a national name since I was a pre-teen. I'd always heard that none of the four Hot Boy rappers were true livewires, but that BG and Turk were in the streets a bit. I ain't connected there so how true this is, I can't personally say. Like I could personally say nikkas like DaBaby and Mozzy weren't front line street dudes, I ain't involved in New Orleans at all to make this claim. But I can say I also heard BG was probably the most street respected of the Hot Boys because he was outside, in contrast to Wayne and Juve who were only associate types...
I've been saying it for years, ever since this board started saying "man all these rappers today are in the streets"....
No, rap is bigger than it ever was, the access to hearing rappers from all over the country is bigger than it ever was, but there is still only a minimum of rappers who were legit street cats. Most if these nikkas, as was always the case, are street-adjacent, they affiliates, they associates. Majority of these guys were never full-time outside, or had a name that mattered, these nikkas go online and flick up money sleeves and guns and rap the talk and nikkas think "man these new nikkas are with it"...
If all these nikkas were gangstas every city's homicide rate would be multiple times higher than what it is. If all these nikkas were hood rich before rap 95% of would never be rapping. I'm gonna tell you something I know, from nikkas I know who were fronting other guy's rap movements, alot of these nikkas be flexing with a)their RAP money or b)the guys behind the scenes' money, when they posting these bills on socials, in most of these cases these nikkas are not posting they own money from coming off the block....
It's even been told that nikkas have dummy bills, counterfeit money they be flexing. Rap has always been an image thing, it pays the bills to paint the image that all your money came from the trenches...
And alota these nikkas are a)flicking up with other nikkas poles or b)nikkas be waving round blammies but aren't shooters, because yes----->the streets have ALWAYS had nikkas outside who had guns, but were not shooters. It pays the bills to paint the image that you're a grave digger...
Half these nikkas histories of "beefs" started from online on social media, rather than being outside and running into situations with nikkas in traffic. I never once, not one time, ever had an issue with nikkas that began online. Ever, but a bunch of these new rappers got in a situation or few that started online, and nikkas gas it like some "street shyt"...
No nikka, that's some "digital shyt"
...Because there are more rappers today, there are more guys in general who were actually street dudes, in volume. That's easy math, more people, more street rappers, but I agree with you, it's not some substantially larger ratio/percentage of nikkas who are "street". These nikkas are STILL, most of em, friends to the nikkas who were really doing dirt, or part-time nikkas who were never doing anything noteworthy themselves. There's exceptions to every rule in life, some of these modern rappers were really from that cut, but it's not "most" and it's not even close to "most"...
My bad on the early morning rant, I'm back in Sacramento and it's going on 7 here
my body still adjusting ti the time change, but any conversations about the validity of street rappers always gets me. Alot of us were really outside at a point in time, I can tell nikkas who pump faking and nikkas who were really outside. I can definitely tell when I'm in the same room with nikkas...
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Gritsngravy
Superstar
@murksiderock on your point about street shyt being overblown, the conversation with your mother
If you listen to certain dudes who was seasoned street nikkas who may or may not be reformed, most will tell you them streets ain’t bout shyt and mf’s is grimy and p*ssy, we have internet now so we can see it live but I’m sure all the shyt goin on now was 100% going on back in the day
If you listen to certain dudes who was seasoned street nikkas who may or may not be reformed, most will tell you them streets ain’t bout shyt and mf’s is grimy and p*ssy, we have internet now so we can see it live but I’m sure all the shyt goin on now was 100% going on back in the day
murksiderock
Superstar
It's a fact, that's what led to my comment, is the poster who said "BG from the no snitching era". What era was this?
this era never existed...I do believe there's less risk behind snitching and a bunch of other flaw shyt today, there was a general lower ceiling to getting away with bullshyt back when. It's the effect of today's always online, digital era. But there was never a time when there was always lethal force for flaw shyt. Everything my mom said she witnessed in her era, I grew to also witness it mine!
That is disingenuous.
It's like implying that Ross and Meek aren't commercially viable just cos they joint album did modest sales.
Most labels would walk through fire to sign any of them... Ross, Meek, Wayne.
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BG ain't gonna be a big earner, but there is definitely money to be made
every pimp got some straggly hoes that make em a few coins too
Gritsngravy
Superstar
Maybe it was like that for a extremely short period of time, for example one thing I hear a lot is dudes used to get “disciplined” for doing certain shyt (bringing various organizational business to citizens) but I believe that shyt wasn’t everywhere or they Picked and chose who to discipline and that only lasted a short period of timeIt's a fact, that's what led to my comment, is the poster who said "BG from the no snitching era". What era was this?
I do believe there's less risk behind snitching and a bunch of other flaw shyt today, there was a general lower ceiling to getting away with bullshyt back when. It's the effect of today's always online, digital era. But there was never a time when there was always lethal force for flaw shyt. Everything my mom said she witnessed in her era, I grew to also witness it mine!
threattonature
Veteran
Believing there is a street code was illogical in the first place. Dudes who live their lives doing grimy shyt, actively breaking laws are going to stick to some street code rather than doing whatever it takes to get ahead like they do day to day didn't make sense. Hustlers by nature are selfish and don't give a damn what damage they are doing to their community. But we supposed to believe they'll put that lack shyt to the side to protect some other nikkas lol.
I came up in a small town and it was running joke how much nikkas was snitching on each other and just taking turns doing bids basically.
@murksiderock
If BG was to announce he's performing in the city, Super Dome tonight, tickets would be sold out within 30 minutes.
If BG and Baby was to pull up to the city together and perform, it would be a line longer than Mississippi River to see them lol.
BG still has a lot of love in the city, don't let Wack or any of these other podcasters trick you to think otherwise. They don't live down here nor be in the area.
Gangsta has done and said some things on his podcast but still he can't put a dent in BG's armor when it comes to BG getting love around in the city IMO.
If I had to guess a % of the people that really gives a shyt about what BG did, IMO, it'll be less than 2%, and that's me being generous.
Wack and these other dudes just need to come down and take a walk uptown and downtown, (other areas in the city) and ask the folks in the city about what they think about his allegations.
The only way this situation affects BG's image (in the city IMO) I'm talking about in the city, is if Baby does a street promo going off about the whole ordeal and I just don't see Baby doing this to BG. I don't see Slim letting Baby do such a thing. Idk.
Someone with clout from the city like a Baby or Slim has to do this, just my .02
If BG was to announce he's performing in the city, Super Dome tonight, tickets would be sold out within 30 minutes.
If BG and Baby was to pull up to the city together and perform, it would be a line longer than Mississippi River to see them lol.
BG still has a lot of love in the city, don't let Wack or any of these other podcasters trick you to think otherwise. They don't live down here nor be in the area.
Gangsta has done and said some things on his podcast but still he can't put a dent in BG's armor when it comes to BG getting love around in the city IMO.
If I had to guess a % of the people that really gives a shyt about what BG did, IMO, it'll be less than 2%, and that's me being generous.
Wack and these other dudes just need to come down and take a walk uptown and downtown, (other areas in the city) and ask the folks in the city about what they think about his allegations.
The only way this situation affects BG's image (in the city IMO) I'm talking about in the city, is if Baby does a street promo going off about the whole ordeal and I just don't see Baby doing this to BG. I don't see Slim letting Baby do such a thing. Idk.
Someone with clout from the city like a Baby or Slim has to do this, just my .02
Gritsngravy
Superstar
I believe a lot of dudes believed in a code cause you have to think typically what type of dude is joining gangs and jumping in the streets, them dudes(teenagers and kids) are easily manipulated by older dudes and it’s too late before they find out they been played
threattonature
Veteran
The same way they can be manipulated by older dudes they can easily be manipulated by police too though. I don't even think most go in with the intent of snitching, just easily mindfukked enough to start naming names.
Gritsngravy
Superstar
This dumb ass nikkas be getting tricked by the police all the time, if they really knew how to be criminals they would know more laws and shyt than the police judges and lawyers do
murksiderock
Superstar
People of authority always were choosy with who they disciplined, when that was a thing...
There's a code, it doesn't mean everyone follows it. There's probably a million laws in the US that get broken every day, doesn't mean there aren't laws against certain behavior...
There are plenty of dudes who follow the code, plenty who dont. The guys who don't doesnt mean there isn't a code...
I would expect this, I wouldn't expect a non-local's word to really matter. In that video, Wack doesn't Flat out say but he heavily insinuates that Stunna gave him the okay to publicize Doogie a snitch. From what you know of Baby, does this seem believable?
Yeah he was ….. b.g and Turk were the most street out the hot Boys ….. da baby yeah he shot someone that I think tryed to rob him , think he killed him aswell but da baby ain’t no hard core killer either …. The thing with da baby is he’s calculating he knows who to punch on or when he’s got the upper hand with security right by to help …. I seen a video where. He did his usual 1 punch drop on someone and the nikkas homie started punching on da baby n since that 1 hitter wasn’t working on his friend n his security wasn’t there he ran away as he was getting punched … so again he knows who to do it to …Soulja slim was really about that life and had killed multiple people… the last person He killed he underestimated the big-dog that was behind him.. n that big -dog put money on slims head n we know the rest …..point am making is some cats like slim don’t know when to change for the better and don’t know wen to switch the static off but you can only do that for so long until someone takes you out which is what happened to slim …@Ineedmoney504 @NO-BadAzz and any other New Orleans posters, what are people think about BG at home? This matters to me more than what people not from there like Wack and the Texas nikkas on call think...
There was never really a "no snitching" era. Maybe there was a time there was more risk of consequence behind it but even in that time there was never no snitching...
I'll never forget when I was in my early 20s, I had a conversation with my mom, I was less than a year out of prison. And in prison I was with all these old dudes who glorified their 90s, 80s, 70s era. And I was in my zone, so this is around 2010, and I remember chopping it up with my mom about some of these conversations with older guys...
My mom (who is now 57 years old, she woulda been around 44 when we had this convo) is second-generation from a widely known area called Oak Park, and she has a name herself, and she said, I'm paraphrasing: "man all them nikkas gassing the 80s lying. nikkas back then were snitching, nikkas back then were back-dooring they homies, nikkas were fakkits getting topped off by punks behind the laundromat then coming around acting like they were good. Alota the old ass nikkas talking were into some bullshyt, don't buy the hype these nikkas selling, I was there"...
I'll never forget this conversation, I was around 21 and wasn't as knowledgeable or seasoned as I am now. And you know what? Moms was right...
I would say even in my time outside there was more consequence behind a lot of stuff, but it wasnt a "no snitching" era. There was always guys who could get away with it!
This is the issue. Why is this white boy running around unchecked, who does he know?
BG been a national name since I was a pre-teen. I'd always heard that none of the four Hot Boy rappers were true livewires, but that BG and Turk were in the streets a bit. I ain't connected there so how true this is, I can't personally say. Like I could personally say nikkas like DaBaby and Mozzy weren't front line street dudes, I ain't involved in New Orleans at all to make this claim. But I can say I also heard BG was probably the most street respected of the Hot Boys because he was outside, in contrast to Wayne and Juve who were only associate types...
I've been saying it for years, ever since this board started saying "man all these rappers today are in the streets"....
No, rap is bigger than it ever was, the access to hearing rappers from all over the country is bigger than it ever was, but there is still only a minimum of rappers who were legit street cats. Most if these nikkas, as was always the case, are street-adjacent, they affiliates, they associates. Majority of these guys were never full-time outside, or had a name that mattered, these nikkas go online and flick up money sleeves and guns and rap the talk and nikkas think "man these new nikkas are with it"...
If all these nikkas were gangstas every city's homicide rate would be multiple times higher than what it is. If all these nikkas were hood rich before rap 95% of would never be rapping. I'm gonna tell you something I know, from nikkas I know who were fronting other guy's rap movements, alot of these nikkas be flexing with a)their RAP money or b)the guys behind the scenes' money, when they posting these bills on socials, in most of these cases these nikkas are not posting they own money from coming off the block....
It's even been told that nikkas have dummy bills, counterfeit money they be flexing. Rap has always been an image thing, it pays the bills to paint the image that all your money came from the trenches...
And alota these nikkas are a)flicking up with other nikkas poles or b)nikkas be waving round blammies but aren't shooters, because yes----->the streets have ALWAYS had nikkas outside who had guns, but were not shooters. It pays the bills to paint the image that you're a grave digger...
Half these nikkas histories of "beefs" started from online on social media, rather than being outside and running into situations with nikkas in traffic. I never once, not one time, ever had an issue with nikkas that began online. Ever, but a bunch of these new rappers got in a situation or few that started online, and nikkas gas it like some "street shyt"...
No nikka, that's some "digital shyt"
Because there are more rappers today, there are more guys in general who were actually street dudes, in volume. That's easy math, more people, more street rappers, but I agree with you, it's not some substantially larger ratio/percentage of nikkas who are "street". These nikkas are STILL, most of em, friends to the nikkas who were really doing dirt, or part-time nikkas who were never doing anything noteworthy themselves. There's exceptions to every rule in life, some of these modern rappers were really from that cut, but it's not "most" and it's not even close to "most"...
My bad on the early morning rant, I'm back in Sacramento and it's going on 7 here
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Groundworks
All Star
It's a fact, that's what led to my comment, is the poster who said "BG from the no snitching era". What era was this?
I do believe there's less risk behind snitching and a bunch of other flaw shyt today, there was a general lower ceiling to getting away with bullshyt back when. It's the effect of today's always online, digital era. But there was never a time when there was always lethal force for flaw shyt. Everything my mom said she witnessed in her era, I grew to also witness it mine!
I'm not a gangster. I was in the streets heavily from 99-2006. 13 - 20 years old I was a menace. I respect your opinion and just from your post I can tell you a real one, but hear me when I say this my nikka, when I was in the streets, and to to be honest, when I was growing up I was always told never snitch. Never tell on a nikka, don't tell tales. That's how it was. Ive seen awful shyt happen to snitches. I mean real fukked up shyt that I still think about to this day. That's all I knew. So when I found out or heard nikkas was snitching that was it. Real nikkas on the block wouldn't fukk with them no more, there name is dog shyt now.
Even now my nikka, I'm not like a lot of people on this forum, I fukking hate snitches. But like I said my nikka I respect your opinion and your mama was talking some real shyt that day, and your posting some real shyt but you have to understand that to me, and a lot of other nikkas we TRULY despise snitches.
This not directed at you, but someone on here was saying since when was B.G a bug time gangsta etc. No one has ever said that. But everyone said BG was out there in them streets. He always kept it real. That loud ass fat ass chatty patty ass Wack and that fat fukking white boy throwing dirt on his name, calling him a snitch is fukked up. BG served his time and KEPT HIS MOUTH SHUT. That nikka the furthest thing from a snitch. He needs to pay them nikkas a visit. fukk that. BG don't have to be a big gangsta l, shyt no nikka has to be a gangsta to confront another man from throwing dirt on there name. Wack and white boy wouldn't do, or say shyt if BG was there in the same room