bigbadbossup2012
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I know how much they spoke on his life but they never said him or his albums were the best .
in fact he's been constantly downplayed as an mc
Wacky D says Mac's 2 NL albums are better than 2Pac's first 2 :dahell:
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I know how much they spoke on his life but they never said him or his albums were the best .
in fact he's been constantly downplayed as an mc
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I agree. Pac was average up until matw. First two albums outside of singles were garbage.
I was a freshman in HS when it came out and that shyt was not discussed at all in my circles. We all loved the singles from the album, and Breed's Gotta Get Mine was like the anthem for the whole school (one of my favorite memories from that time was my whole bus breaking out into an impromptu acapella performance of Pac's verse), so Pac got nothing but love, but as far as that album was concerned, it got no play or mentions. Very forgettable album.
classic example of an all-time great singles wave, stuck on a middle-of-the-road album.
ive seen him #1 on some lists.
but that's not what I was speaking on.
he knew what he was doing with those records.
I just gave @bigrodthe1 the biggest moment of his posting career.
and people act like I'm a bad guy.
and people act like I'm a bad guy.
Negro do you NOT know my history???
I had classic threads back when you were waiting on BET to play Thuggish Ruggish Bone one more time 
you BEST ask about me 
and @tuckdog aka Wacky G I see you "tucked" your tail and left that idiot argument alone. Glad you realized your stupidity before it was too late
Come on Dog...you already see that I'm from the SAME era...out of ANY of those cats you just ran off name ONE besides Cube, who was on the downslide, who were making any noise NATIONALLY in 1993. Not a single damn one
Fam, I have nothing else to argue with about. You want to do this shyt all day, so you keep moving the goal posts whenever your previous point is proved false. Like I said, throw the poll up and get some real statistics. Other than that, I have better things to do with my time, breh.
bigbadbossup2012
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Top 50 of all time (1999) #1 Rakim #2 KRS-One #3 Biggie #4 Big Daddy Kane #5 LL Cool J #6 Kool G Rap #7 Tupac #8 Slick Rick #9 Jay-Z #10 Ice Cube.classic example of an all-time great singles wave, stuck on a middle-of-the-road album.
ive seen him #1 on some lists.
but that's not what I was speaking on.
he knew what he was doing with those records.
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Diehard fans, music nerds and critics love lists. But in rap, rankings like this take on a special level of import: aside from moving a crowd (shouts to Rakim), MC means proving you’re the best. In no other genre do artists so blatantly express their desire to outdo competition. That made Billboard's editorial list a more high-stakes undertaking than usual. Many favorites -- Kane, Drake, KRS -- didn’t make it, and each of those omissions hurts deep down. Note: we’re ranking these folks as MCs, not artists. That’s why Dr. Dre and Kanye West, for example, two legendary producer-rappers who don’t match the mic skills of those listed here, were left out. Even Tupac, perhaps the most influential rapper ever globally, is arguably known more for great songwriting than dominant bars.
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Lil Wayne’s commercial success speaks for itself -- just ask Elvis, whom Weezy surpassed three years ago as the artist with the most Billboard Hot 100 hits of all time. But leaving that aside, his dizzying run of mixtapes, albums and guest spots from around 2004 to 2009 is arguably the most prolific example of quality meets quantity hip-hop has ever seen. No MC has ever rapped that well, on that many songs, for that long of a time period.
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9. Kendrick Lamar
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First off the topic is that Clowny D said that Mac's 2 NL albums are >>> 2pac first and we all know this is bullshyt.
Now your dumb ass said that Pac wasn't accepted because all the other Conscious rappers in 1993 were shytting on him thus his career was inferior. I said the issue was that he was Militant to a fault in his music and to take off he had to diversify his sound. I asked you to name ONE off the list that you came up with that was popping in '93 and you ran off like a bytch and now I'm moving the goalposts
You one of them smart dumb nikkas I see
First off the topic is that Clowny D said that Mac's 2 NL albums are >>> 2pac first and we all know this is bullshyt.
Now your dumb ass said that Pac wasn't accepted because all the other Conscious rappers in 1993 were shytting on him thus his career was inferior. I said the issue was that he was Militant to a fault in his music and to take off he had to diversify his sound. I asked you to name ONE off the list that you came up with that was popping in '93 and you ran off like a bytch and now I'm moving the goalposts
You one of them smart dumb nikkas I see
Oh, you one of them nikkas.
Yeah...one who keeps it real. Now
Good grief
bigbadbossup2012
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When people voted for the goat
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I'm talking about how his legacy is forced.
I turn on the TV or radio, I'm bound to bombarded with some 2pac at some point.
bigbadbossup2012
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How is it forced? Or they making up stuff or telling his actual story?