Wade: Bron catching Jordan is a pipes dream

[FlyRy]

Less teams mean less talent dilution, which means overall quality of play is extremely high.

Imagine 16 teams today disappeared think about all the players and talent being the same but the teams concentrating to 14 squads, don't you think the quality of play would increase?

I get that breh. Less watered down.

Idk just odd to think about. The playoffs were only 3 rounds back then too.

 

[David_TheMan]

I get that breh. Less watered down.

Idk just odd to think about. The playoffs were only 3 rounds back then too.

Yep and the first round was still best of 5

 

[god shamgod]

He covered Stockton, he had Barkley, he had Clyde, he had Magic, he took on the Penny duties the year after the elimination, he took on Kemp and would switch on Gary. When AI showed up Phil wanted Pippen on him when the crossover happened and they after that went with Pippen on AI. Hell when Harper came they would run Harper on the top guards as well to protect Jordan.

Pippen never guarded john stockton for a whole game,Jordan primarily guarded drexler in the 92 finals and in every match up,pippen guarded kersey.Barkley average 27ppg in the finals with pippen guarding him,Penny also use to body pippen,The myth that pippen shut down magic isn't true when magic averaged like 18ppg 11 apg and 9 rpg with pippen switched on him.

I asked you specifically to name premier scorers pippen shut down and you named zero.The edited youtube videos never show the plays where pippen gets destroyed on defense so that's awful proof.

 

[David_TheMan]

Pippen never guarded john stockton for a whole game,Jordan primarily guarded drexler in the 92 finals and in every match up,pippen guarded kersey.Barkley average 27ppg in the finals with pippen guarding him,Penny also use to body pippen,The myth that pippen shut down magic isn't true when magic averaged like 18ppg 11 apg and 9 rpg with pippen switched on him.

I asked you specifically to name premier scorers pippen shut down and you named zero.The edited youtube videos never show the plays where pippen gets destroyed on defense so that's awful proof.

You asked who he guarded I told you, now you wanna cry about it because reality doesn't fit your story.
What can I say except, you'll be alright, but Pippen still took the top defensive assignments for the Bulls whether you like it or not.

 

[god shamgod]

You asked who he guarded I told you, now you wanna cry about it because reality doesn't fit your story.
What can I say except, you'll be alright, but Pippen still took the top defensive assignments for the Bulls whether you like it or not.

Unlike I you I actually watched the 90's bulls that's why I know you're embellishing facts and pushin an agenda.Which is why I debunked your trash post

Still waiting for you to name scorers pippen shut down

 

[David_TheMan]

Unlike I you I actually watched the 90's bulls that's why I know you're embellishing facts and pushin an agenda.Which is why I debunked your trash post

Still waiting for you to name scorers pippen shut down

You didn't debunk anything though, you tried to say reality didn't occur and thought this equated with debunking something.
As for who Pippen was tasked with guarding and who he shutdown its extremely easy to listen to coaches and players on the bulls championshp squad tell you Pippen had the toughest assignments not Jordan, and that isn't embellishing anything its simply a fact.

 

[mbewane]

Here's the problem with this argument. Why do we give MJ credit for going to Finals and never losing but getting knocked out early in his career while bringing up Lebron's 3-3 Finals Record as if he didn't bring teams that wouldn't have been playoff teams without him there? What MJ did in the Finals was unbelievable but we're basically taking credit away from Bron for taking teams that didn't deserve to be there while not taking any credit away from MJ for getting eliminated early

The 07 Cavs had no business being in the NBA finals and the 2014-15 Cavs were bombed out and depleted.

We saw Jordan retire and his team went 55-27 without him.

It's all about how you perform at the highest level : the Finals. No one cares about Eastern or Western conference banners, even less so when you come out of the East.

And Even if you take out those two Finals (07 and 15), well Lebron still lost twice (2011 and 2014) when he was heavily favorite and his team was at full force. So, again, Bron went 3-2 in the Finals at full force (if we decide not to consider 07 and 15), while MJ went 6-0.

No matter how we wanna spin it, MJ never lost in the Finals and did what he was supposed to do : win. Lebron lost twice when his team was supposed to win and was at full force. Ain't no way to spin that.

 

[mbewane]

So you penalize Bird, Bron, Magic, and Shaq for going to the finals and losing, but you don't penalize Mike for those years he was in the game and couldn't even make the finals.

That makes no sense.

Here's what I answered to another breh :

It's all about how you perform at the highest level : the Finals. No one cares about Eastern or Western conference banners, even less so when you come out of the East.

And Even if you take out those two Finals (07 and 15), well Lebron still lost twice (2011 and 2014) when he was heavily favorite and his team was at full force. So, again, Bron went 3-2 in the Finals at full force (if we decide not to consider 07 and 15), while MJ went 6-0.

No matter how we wanna spin it, MJ never lost in the Finals and did what he was supposed to do : win. Lebron lost twice when his team was supposed to win and was at full force. Ain't no way to spin that.

 

[Truefan31]

Pippen never guarded john stockton for a whole game,Jordan primarily guarded drexler in the 92 finals and in every match up,pippen guarded kersey.Barkley average 27ppg in the finals with pippen guarding him,Penny also use to body pippen,The myth that pippen shut down magic isn't true when magic averaged like 18ppg 11 apg and 9 rpg with pippen switched on him.

I asked you specifically to name premier scorers pippen shut down and you named zero.The edited youtube videos never show the plays where pippen gets destroyed on defense so that's awful proof.

Don't worry according to him mj didn't play defense even though the vast majority of players say mj was the goat because of his overall skills both offensively and defensively.

 

[<<TheStandard>>]

It's all about how you perform at the highest level : the Finals. No one cares about Eastern or Western conference banners, even less so when you come out of the East.

And Even if you take out those two Finals (07 and 15), well Lebron still lost twice (2011 and 2014) when he was heavily favorite and his team was at full force. So, again, Bron went 3-2 in the Finals at full force (if we decide not to consider 07 and 15), while MJ went 6-0.

No matter how we wanna spin it, MJ never lost in the Finals and did what he was supposed to do : win. Lebron lost twice when his team was supposed to win and was at full force. Ain't no way to spin that.

Let's really examine 2011

They were heavy favorites but really were they the better team?

The 2011 Miami Heat didn't have the spacing and shooting that later iterations had.

They were starting Joel Anthony and the corpse of Mike Bibby. This was'n't the Miami Heat team that would kill you with Battier & Bosh as a stretch 4-5 or with Ray. It's easy to blend teams together when looking at a dynasty/era/repeat champions. The 2011 Miami heat had it's flaws that made them beatable.

Bron didn't look good but you have to question if they even deserved to be that high of a favorite.

2014, Vegas fukked up. The Spurs should have been huge favorites. There was no one who was beating the Spurs that year. I'm not even going to argue this.

 

[David_TheMan]

Here's what I answered to another breh :

What does that have to do with what i posted though? Nothing.
Like i said, losing in the first or second round is no different than losing in the finals.
Listening to yall you would try to argue its better OKC got put out in the WCF than to go to the finals and lose, which is ridiculous on its face.

Don't worry according to him mj didn't play defense even though the vast majority of players say mj was the goat because of his overall skills both offensively and defensively.

I specifically said MJ was an elite defender entering the league up to 93 - 94. It is then that Pippen started to take over the lion's share of the defensive responsibilities to hide Jordan.

 

[Truefan31]

Let's really examine 2011

They were heavy favorites but really were they the better team?

The 2011 Miami Heat didn't have the spacing and shooting that later iterations had.

They were starting Joel Anthony and the corpse of Mike Bibby.

Bron didn't look good but you have to question if they even deserved to be that high of a favorite.

2014, Vegas fukked up. The Spurs should have been huge favorites. There was no one who was beating the Spurs that year. I'm not even going to argue this.

Lol please don't try to justify the 2011 heat losing to dirk n a bunch of average players. They had a series lead before chokin and bron giving them a huge boost with 8 points lol.

And yes bron gets knocked down for leavin Cleveland and doin the easy thing and joining wade and bosh. Then dippin out after he basically surrendered to the Spurs and went back so he could ride Kyrie and know the east was trash enough he'd be in the finals.

 

[mbewane]

Let's really examine 2011

They were heavy favorites but really were they the better team?

The 2011 Miami Heat didn't have the spacing and shooting that later iterations had.

They were starting Joel Anthony and the corpse of Mike Bibby.

Bron didn't look good but you have to question if they even deserved to be that high of a favorite.

2014, Vegas fukked up. The Spurs should have been huge favorites. There was no one who was beating the Spurs that year. I'm not even going to argue this.

Breh, when you're the supposed GOAT (as Bron fans say he is), well you find a way. You figure it out. You're out there with Wade and Bosh and a great crew, ain't no excuses. Shoot 30 times, have back-to-back 50 points games, whatever it takes. You can't be scared of backing up JJ Barea or be outplayed by Jason Terry you cant get torched in a damn near sweep by the same team you beat the year before.

Are you a GOAT (playing with one first-ballot HOF and a probable other one) that can take over the game and series or not?

 

[sfgiants]

LMAO @ making excuses for 2011



Check bosh and wade stats, they were at their season averages if this choke artist doesn't get locked up by jkidd and over the hill Shawn Marion and outscored by a bench player the heat win EASILY and wade walking around chiraq right now with 4 rings

 

[Truefan31]

Breh, when you're the supposed GOAT (as Bron fans say he is), well you find a way. You figure it out. You're out there with Wade and Bosh and a great crew, ain't no excuses. Shoot 30 times, have back-to-back 50 points games, whatever it takes. You can't be scared of backing up JJ Barea or be outplayed by Jason Terry you cant get torched in a damn near sweep by the same team you beat the year before.

Are you a GOAT (playing with one first-ballot HOF and a probable other one) that can take over the game and series or not?

Havin trouble with JJ barea brehs