Wait, Draymond Green is not a 1st ballot HOF in people's eye's?

[IsThatBrothaMouzone?]

Only because the BBall of Fame has shyt standards. His equivalent in other sports, wont make it. You would never see a Rocky Blier or a Jay Novacek make the HOF for being high end role players on dynasties..hell, guys like Roger Craig and Bernie Williams, who were wayy better at their sport than Draymond, have not and likely will not, make the HOF. John Taylor.isnt making any HOF, neither is Julian Edelman or a Willie McGinest or a Tedy Bruschi. Bill Romanowski was a part of two back to back championship teams, he is not going into the HOF. Carl Banks is not going to the Pro Football HOF. Basketball's standards are far too low!!!

Truth.

Obviously hoops is different since it's "basketball" and not specifically the NBA but they are MUCH more generous with regards to HOF vs Not HOF.

Sometimes it makes sense because the NBA is the youngest of the Big 4 leagues and they have the smallest rosters. Plus a single great player can damn near win a title. The legit elite tier is much smaller in the league....just being a great role player on multiple title teams is enough.

 

[Fresh]

Since when does intangibles and x factors get you into Hall Of Fames

Theres alot of NBA players whos teamates would describe them as the "heart and soul" of the team. Or guys who were smart and helped anchor defenses,who wouldnt be in the hall of fame. You are only trying to put Draymond in due to name recognition and Klutch propaganda. And due to the fact Warriors have won championships. But one due to Iguodolas defense,2 due to cheating with KD. And the final one largely due to Poole,who Draymond is responsible for no longer being on the team. If Draymond gets in Derrick Fisher and Robert Horry damn sure better get in. Draymonds resume aint better than either.

lmao you really feel some type of way about this
Draymond is probably going to get into the hall of fame unless he keeps acting like a hot head and putting his hands on people

cuz he has fvcked up a lot

beefin with KD which made him leave
punching Poole in the face
putting Rudy in a chokehold

but the argument about if he was on another team he would be average, but you can say that about a lot of players

GS knows he was a very important piece to Golfen State, even Steve Kerr called him a "defensive genius".

peace and blessings my Coli breh, hope u have a good Friday breh

 

[Still Benefited]

lmao you really feel some type of way about this
Draymond is probably going to get into the hall of fame unless he keeps acting like a hot head and putting his hands on people

cuz he has fvcked up a lot

beefin with KD which made him leave
punching Poole in the face
putting Rudy in a chokehold

but the argument about if he was on another team he would be average, but you can say that about a lot of players

GS knows he was a very important piece to Golfen State, even Steve Kerr called him a "defensive genius".

peace and blessings my Coli breh, hope u have a good Friday breh

So you agree hes probably cost them more titles than hes responsible for them winning. Off that alone I dont see how you get into the hall of fame. Hes supposedly greatbbecause he knows his assignments. Is small enough he can occassionally guard smaller guards in this soft era with intimidation tactics. And is big enough to guard the mediocre big men of his time,but not genius enough to shut down the elite ones. I dont wanna hear shyt about Draymonds defensive genius intangibles when Dwight Howard isnt even considered a top 75 nba player. Draymond better not get in the Hall Of Fame



Just speaking the facts,tell me about the versatility when its Pippen or an Iguodola. Is Draymond better than Lamar Odom to you,or a more "important piece"?

The answer is no. Too many guys fit this vague "heart of the team" "important piece" "couldnt have done it without em" narrative. Only difference is they arent as loud about it as Draymond who tells you how clever he is on his podcast.. Along with having allies in media#Klutch

 

[Fresh]

So you agree hes probably cost them more titles than hes responsible for them winning. Off that alone I dont see how you get into the hall of fame. Hes supposedly greatbbecause he knows his assignments. Is small enough he can occassionally guard smaller guards in this soft era with intimidation tactics. And is big enough to guard the mediocre big men of his time,but not genius enough to shut down the elite ones. I dont wanna hear shyt about Draymonds defensive genius intangibles when Dwight Howard isnt even considered a top 75 nba player. Draymond better not get in the Hall Of Fame



Just speaking the facts,tell me about the versatility when its Pippen or an Iguodola. Is Draymond better than Lamar Odom to you,or a more "important piece"?

The answer is no. Too many guys fit this vague "heart of the team" "important piece" "couldnt have done it without em" narrative. Only difference is they arent as loud about it as Draymond who tells you how clever he is on his podcast.. Along with having allies in media#Klutch

agree to disagree breh
however if he wasn't treating KD foul and Durant stayed with the Warriors they would definitely have more rings, I agree on that
but trust he's going into the hall of fame breh, don't focus so much on whether he DESERVES to be in the hall of fame, after he retires there's a good chance he will eventually

 

[Still Benefited]

agree to disagree breh
however if he wasn't treating KD foul and Durant stayed with the Warriors they would definitely have more rings, I agree on that
but trust he's going into the hall of fame breh, don't focus so much on whether he DESERVES to be in the hall of fame, after he retires there's a good chance he will eventually

Your probably right,but the question of the thread is is he first ballot in peoples eyes. Eye test says absolutely not imo. And I think most would definitely agree he isnt 1st ballot

 

[PoorAndDangerous]

He’ll probably easily get into the HOF

 

[Fresh]

Your probably right,but the question of the thread is is he first ballot in peoples eyes. Eye test says absolutely not imo. And I think most would definitely agree he isnt 1st ballot

nah I'm not delusional, he's def not a 1st ballot hall of Famer, lol
I still think he's gettin in though

 

[Cladyclad]

agree to disagree breh
however if he wasn't treating KD foul and Durant stayed with the Warriors they would definitely have more rings, I agree on that
but trust he's going into the hall of fame breh, don't focus so much on whether he DESERVES to be in the hall of fame, after he retires there's a good chance he will eventually

How would they have more rings?
year 1 KD was not playing the next season along with Klay. curry was out for the year
Year 2 klay still out
Year 3. the core 3 get healthy they won lol
year 4 lost to lakers


while KD who was on 2 super teams during that same period and lost

and 2016 if Dray so trash him not playing one single game in a best out of 7 should not matter

 

[Still Benefited]

How would they have more rings?
year 1 KD was not playing the next season along with Klay. curry was out for the year
Year 2 klay still out
Year 3. the core 3 get healthy they won lol
year 4 lost to lakers


while KD who was on 2 super teams during that same period and lost

and 2016 if Dray so trash him not playing one single game in a best out of 7 should not matter

It wouldnt have mattered in 2016 if Curry didnt choke. For some reason people leave that out to boost Draymond. People say Curry was injured,but he simply shrank in the midst of one of the goats. You could see the pressure got to him. He and this organazation still strike me as a bunch of front runners til this day. Love Steph,would love to go on a double date with him and Ayesha,but this is the truth.

 

[knickscrusaderm]

It wouldnt have mattered in 2016 if Curry didnt choke. For some reason people leave that out to boost Draymond. People say Curry was injured,but he simply shrank in the midst of one of the goats. You could see the pressure got to him. He and this organazation still strike me as a bunch of front runners til this day. Love Steph,would love to go on a double date with him and Ayesha,but this is the truth.

nikka curry was getting trapped on every pick and roll what choke. Draymond should've been averaging 30 a game. Steph is trapped and no one is leaving Klay he was getting 3 on 2 looks going downhill every other play .

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

warriors ain't doing shyt in the playoffs with that run and gun style of play. the oregon football of the NBA.

warriors won't make it to the WCF. quote me on that. get mad

there's at least 5 teams that could knock them out before the WCF

yeah. ok nikka.

the plea-copping when the warriors flop is gonna be hilarious.

A whole decade of moving the goal posts and not being answerable to your bullshyt; discrediting Steph, Dray and Kerr all along the way, and you have the gall to accuse others of behavior you're guilty of.

No shame in your game.

Keep trying to distract these folks from why you pull this shyt. The more you do it, the more you only tell on yourself.

 

[DetroitEWarren]

So you agree hes probably cost them more titles than hes responsible for them winning. Off that alone I dont see how you get into the hall of fame. Hes supposedly greatbbecause he knows his assignments. Is small enough he can occassionally guard smaller guards in this soft era with intimidation tactics. And is big enough to guard the mediocre big men of his time,but not genius enough to shut down the elite ones. I dont wanna hear shyt about Draymonds defensive genius intangibles when Dwight Howard isnt even considered a top 75 nba player. Draymond better not get in the Hall Of Fame



Just speaking the facts,tell me about the versatility when its Pippen or an Iguodola. Is Draymond better than Lamar Odom to you,or a more "important piece"?

The answer is no. Too many guys fit this vague "heart of the team" "important piece" "couldnt have done it without em" narrative. Only difference is they arent as loud about it as Draymond who tells you how clever he is on his podcast.. Along with having allies in media#Klutch

This nikka said Lamar Odom is a better and more impactful player than Draymond

 

[Still Benefited]

This nikka said Lamar Odom is a better and more impactful player than Draymond

Is this even a question?


LO is one of the most talented to ever play the game. How many players at his size were doing what he was doing? Yall just forgot because its more common now smh.


But yall wanna convince us that a "bu bu but its not on the stat sheet" guy is better than Odom and a Hall of Famer? Im not saying Odom is a HOF either btw. But if somebody of that ilk is going in,LO got a better case than Draymond. Do you realize how many "glue guys","leaders" and "he does the little things" guys are given life if Draymond is a Hall Of Famer. If he didnt make himself famous through antics,talk so much about how great he is,and have one of the greatest ever having a platform to tell yall hes great. None of you would be saying how great Draymond is.


When you saw Lamar play,you knew

 

[DetroitEWarren]

So you agree hes probably cost them more titles than hes responsible for them winning. Off that alone I dont see how you get into the hall of fame. Hes supposedly greatbbecause he knows his assignments. Is small enough he can occassionally guard smaller guards in this soft era with intimidation tactics. And is big enough to guard the mediocre big men of his time,but not genius enough to shut down the elite ones. I dont wanna hear shyt about Draymonds defensive genius intangibles when Dwight Howard isnt even considered a top 75 nba player. Draymond better not get in the Hall Of Fame



Just speaking the facts,tell me about the versatility when its Pippen or an Iguodola. Is Draymond better than Lamar Odom to you,or a more "important piece"?

The answer is no. Too many guys fit this vague "heart of the team" "important piece" "couldnt have done it without em" narrative. Only difference is they arent as loud about it as Draymond who tells you how clever he is on his podcast.. Along with having allies in media#Klutch

Answer me this breh. Would you rather have a top 3 defender in the history of the game that literally changes teams offensive schemes damn near by himself, or a player that's not even near the top 200 players ever on offense .

Like, some of you dudes just love ignorant ass comments.

Give me the historically good defender over the 205th ranked offensive player EVERY SINGLE TIME.

 

[Still Benefited]

If Kobe was alive and telling yall how great Lamar Odom was everyday,He would get the same rub that Draymond is getting. This narrative needs to stop. He would get exposed if the Warriors had the balls to trade him. If hes the Chris Paul of big men like yall say he is, He should be able to do Chris Paul things and lift bad and mediocre teams. Yet nobody is willing to make an offer the Warriors cant refuse?