Wait, How is Curry's Season Any Better Then Durant's in 2014?

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Or mj dropping 37 a game
He was taking some 8-10 shots more on a team that won I think 44-47 games. It's not gonna get the same type of praise as the season curry is having while chasing 73 wins. That wasn't mike's best season anyway. I think his 1989 season was better anyway since his game was more well rounded by then.
 

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30 ppg, .505 %, 5.4 rebounds, 6.5 assists, couple steals in 34 minutes (Most impressive part) vs
32 mpg, .503%, 7.5 rebounds, 5.5 assists, 1.4 blocks, 1.5 steals in 38 minutes.

equal efficiency, non scoring stats slightly favor durant

Durant scored 2 more ppg, with a 4.5 increase in minutes. Thats not inefficient

They are about even :ehh:


You neglected advanced stats that tell the whole story....and no the efficiency isn't equal because you're neglecting the effect of the 3 point shot when you only look at overall FG%


Curry PER 31.6
Durant PER 29.8


Curry True Shooting % .670
Durant True Shooting % .635


Curry Offensive Rating 125 Defensive Rating 102
Durant Offensive rating 123 Defensive Rating 104


Curry PER 31.6
Durant PER 29.8



Curry OPM 12.4 DPM, 0.1 BPM, 12.4 VORP 8.9
Durant OPM 8.4 DPM 0.4 BPM 8.8 VORP 8.5



Curry is also ahead in Win Shares as well....By every advanced metric Curry's season is more dominant.
 

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You neglected advanced stats that tell the whole story....and no the efficiency isn't equal because you're neglecting the effect of the 3 point shot when you only look at overall FG%


Curry PER 31.6
Durant PER 29.8


Curry True Shooting % .670
Durant True Shooting % .635


Curry Offensive Rating 125 Defensive Rating 102
Durant Offensive rating 123 Defensive Rating 104


Curry PER 31.6
Durant PER 29.8



Curry OPM 12.4 DPM, 0.1 BPM, 12.4 VORP 8.9
Durant OPM 8.4 DPM 0.4 BPM 8.8 VORP 8.5



Curry is also ahead in Win Shares as well....By every advanced metric Curry's season is more dominant.
Man..... whatever


Take your algorithms and book learnin' elsewhere :camby:
 

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You neglected advanced stats that tell the whole story....and no the efficiency isn't equal because you're neglecting the effect of the 3 point shot when you only look at overall FG%


Curry PER 31.6
Durant PER 29.8


Curry True Shooting % .670
Durant True Shooting % .635


Curry Offensive Rating 125 Defensive Rating 102
Durant Offensive rating 123 Defensive Rating 104


Curry PER 31.6
Durant PER 29.8



Curry OPM 12.4 DPM, 0.1 BPM, 12.4 VORP 8.9
Durant OPM 8.4 DPM 0.4 BPM 8.8 VORP 8.5



Curry is also ahead in Win Shares as well....By every advanced metric Curry's season is more dominant.
Nah but like I said.... advanced metrics factor in team dominance. Its why Curry was rated as the best defender in the league for a month or 2 (either this season or last), even though hes only above average
 

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Nah but like I said.... advanced metrics factor in team dominance. Its why Curry was rated as the best defender in the league for a month or 2 (either this season or last), even though hes only above average


LOL @ advanced metrics factoring team dominance on True Shooting percentage.

If anything you have to question if Curry's offensive dominance isn't captured enough by something like RPM or BPM.

You're definitely right about Defensive rating and Defensive Box/Plus Minus.....but to flat out single them all out is foolish.

They all have their flaws but it's idiotic to simply use overall FG% as a measure of efficiency in 2016. It's not 1998 breh. You brought up statistics in your thread to make a point, now use them properly.
 

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LOL @ advanced metrics factoring team dominance on True Shooting percentage.

If anything you have to question if Curry's offensive dominance isn't captured enough by something like RPM or BPM.

You're definitely right about Defensive rating and Defensive Box/Plus Minus.....but to flat out single them all out is foolish.

They all have their flaws but it's idiotic to simply use overall FG% as a measure of efficiency in 2016. It's not 1998 breh. You brought up statistics in your thread to make a point, now use them properly.
How is true shooting% distinct from raw efficiency?
 

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LOL @ advanced metrics factoring team dominance on True Shooting percentage.

If anything you have to question if Curry's offensive dominance isn't captured enough by something like RPM or BPM.

You're definitely right about Defensive rating and Defensive Box/Plus Minus.....but to flat out single them all out is foolish.

They all have their flaws but it's idiotic to simply use overall FG% as a measure of efficiency in 2016. It's not 1998 breh. You brought up statistics in your thread to make a point, now use them properly.
My only point is that advanced metrics do in fact have flaws. They have the obvious effect of bolstering the stats of 3 pt shooters like Curry.
 

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How is true shooting% distinct from raw efficiency?


True-shooting percentage is a shooting efficiency statistic that acts like field-goal percentage but is adjusted for three-pointers and free throws. You don't see how not incorporating 3 pointers for Curry or FTs from Harden can affect how you see the impact of these players?
 

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My only point is that advanced metrics do in fact have flaws. They have the obvious effect of bolstering the stats of 3 pt shooters like Curry.

Whats really the point of nitpicking at any advanced metrics (that sure, have flaws) when you used basic stats like FG% or PPG?

If anything those advanced metrics help try and paint a deeper story than basic surface stats like FG%

You can just take everything at face value and come to the conclusion that Currys seasons is stronger. You also tried dismissing the fact that his team is about to break the all time win mark. You also dismissed that Curry plays 4 less minutes. Why would we do that? Its all plays a huge factor

I mean, lets take everything you posted in the OP into account with the advanced numbers, and the fact that his team is playing at a GOAT level

Is it still really confusing to you why people are elevating Currys season? I really dont think so in this case, its pretty well deserved IMO
 

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He was taking some 8-10 shots more on a team that won I think 44-47 games. It's not gonna get the same type of praise as the season curry is having while chasing 73 wins. That wasn't mike's best season anyway. I think his 1989 season was better anyway since his game was more well rounded by then.

That's fair but mj had trash for team mates

curry has Thompson and dray
 
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