Wait, How is Curry's Season Any Better Then Durant's in 2014?

[ThaRealness]

True-shooting percentage is a shooting efficiency statistic that acts like field-goal percentage but is adjusted for three-pointers and free throws. You don't see how not incorporating 3 pointers for Curry or FTs from Harden can affect how you see the impact of these players?

So if a player has a nasty J, but they don't shoot many threes, they'll have a weaker advanced stat line. Its a biased way of measuring efficiency.

that said, The Warriors are about to win 74 games precisely because they shoot 3's so well. So there's definitely evidence for advanced metrics

 

[DonKnock]

Whats really the point of nitpicking at any advanced metrics (that sure, have flaws) when you used basic stats like FG% or PPG?

If anything those advanced metrics help try and paint a deeper story than basic surface stats like FG%

You can just take everything at face value and come to the conclusion that Currys seasons is stronger. You also tried dismissing the fact that his team is about to break the all time win mark. You also dismissed that Curry plays 4 less minutes. Why would we do that? Its all plays a huge factor

I mean, lets take everything you posted in the OP into account with the advanced numbers, and the fact that his team is playing at a GOAT level

Is it still really confusing to you why people are elevating Currys season? I really dont think so in this case, its pretty well deserved IMO

This^^ is why his defensive advanced stats are misleading.

His offensive advanced stats are accurate, but having 4 other defensive specialists out there is boosting his defensive ratings, Durant didnt have the benefit of hiding on the opposing teams worst player and letting his FMVP do all the dirty work

 

[Brozay]

All that being said, it is curious how Steph has a webpage dedicated to him on ESPN, and they even have it as its own tab next to Scores, Schedule, Standings, ETC on the NBA home page

Stephen Curry Player Spotlight - News, Videos & Highlights - ESPN

 

[Brozay]

This^^ is why his defensive advanced stats are misleading.

His offensive advanced stats are accurate, but having 4 other defensive specialists out there is boosting his defensive ratings, Durant didnt have the benefit of hiding on the opposing teams worst player

Ok, but if you're gonna say this, can you point me to the people who are elevating Currys season right now by saying hes playing elite level defense or something?

Hes winning the MVP because of his offense (as did Durant), lets be serious here

 

[ThaRealness]

All that being said, it is curious how Steph has a webpage dedicated to him on ESPN, and they even have it as its own tab next to Scores, Schedule, Standings, ETC on the NBA home page

Stephen Curry Player Spotlight - News, Videos & Highlights - ESPN

Yo they really added that shyt like an hour ago

'Nothin' but Steph'

 

[Ben.]

You neglected advanced stats that tell the whole story....and no the efficiency isn't equal because you're neglecting the effect of the 3 point shot when you only look at overall FG%


Curry PER 31.6
Durant PER 29.8


Curry True Shooting % .670
Durant True Shooting % .635


Curry Offensive Rating 125 Defensive Rating 102
Durant Offensive rating 123 Defensive Rating 104


Curry PER 31.6
Durant PER 29.8



Curry OPM 12.4 DPM, 0.1 BPM, 12.4 VORP 8.9
Durant OPM 8.4 DPM 0.4 BPM 8.8 VORP 8.5



Curry is also ahead in Win Shares as well....By every advanced metric Curry's season is more dominant.

THIS + Curry is shooting a lot more 3s and his teams success.

Curry about to have 50/40/90 with 30ppg

 

[DonKnock]

Ok, but if you're gonna say this, can you point me to the people who are elevating Currys season right now by saying hes playing elite level defense or something?

Hes winning the MVP because of his offense (as did Durant), lets be serious here

The turn is beginning

 

[ThaRealness]

The turn is beginning

5:06 he just got beat

 

[FAH1223]

Curry is having an all-time great season.

 

[<<TheStandard>>]

So if a player has a nasty J, but they don't shoot many threes, they'll have a weaker advanced stat line. Its a biased way of measuring efficiency.

that said, The Warriors are about to win 74 games precisely because they shoot 3's so well. So there's definitely evidence for advanced metrics

It's not biased. The midrange jumpshot is the most inefficient shot in the NBA in terms of points per possession. In an ideal world a team would prefer to take dunks, layups and corner 3s (& hope to get fouled). Hence you have teams like the Houston Rockets having guys like Corey Brewer shooting 29% from 3 but still jacking them up because it's +EV in the long run. When teams ICE the PNR midrange jumpshots are the the thing teams are willing to give up. 33% from 3 = 50% from 2. A midrange jumpshot would net you about .79 points in the long run....where as a 3 might net you around 1.1. It's basically just playing the percentages.

You can look no further than last year's Washington Wizards (pre playoffs before they started shooting more 3s and played with a bit more pace and space) and the the Timberwolves of recent years as teams who shot so many dead zone midrange jumpshots and struggled.

Marreese Speights is a pretty good midrange shooter (he's making them at nearly 44 percent) but a team will live with him taking as many as he wants if it means you don't have Klay, Curry taking 3s.

Teams aren't trying to run Curry and Klay off the 3 point line for no reason. The extra point from 3s makes all the difference in the world in terms of efficiency.

 

[onelastdeath]

Curry stans tryna act like Wilt don't exist

Curry >>>>> Wilt.

 

[DonKnock]

Curry >>>>> Wilt.

Not surprised

 

[Consumed]

Its a very good discussion to have. I'd side with Steph b/c he's a much better playmaker (apg does NOT tell the story of his skill/influence here) and is having the more impressive scoring season when you take into account his efficiency advantage + volume in a lower mpg total.

The playoffs could be what separates this comparison by a larger margin. Thought KD was slightly underwhelming (by his insane standards anyway) in the postseason that year, so should Curry maintain or dare I say elevate his level of play it would give him an even greater edge here.

 

[malbaker86]

All that being said, it is curious how Steph has a webpage dedicated to him on ESPN, and they even have it as its own tab next to Scores, Schedule, Standings, ETC on the NBA home page

Stephen Curry Player Spotlight - News, Videos & Highlights - ESPN

Lebron won't like that

 

[Piff Huxtable]

2000 Shaq still the most impressive in my lifetime (i won't pretend i watched pre 1993 retirement MJ when i was 5 years old)