Wait so kawhi really the second best player in the nba

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Jplaya2023 said:
Remove Steph from GS and they still win 50+ games
Remove leonard from the spurs and they still win 50+ games (check their record this season when he misses games)
remove KD from OKC and they still won 45 with russy
remove lebron from the cavs and they're a lottery team.

That alone should tell you lebron is the clear cut best in the league, his team actually needs him to win..
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Put Curry on a team full of defensive players who're limited scorers, and give Curry the ability to put up 25-30 shots a night and keep him rested on the defensive end, and they'd win 50+ games. Take Curry off that same team and they'd be lucky to win 20 games. See how easy that is?
 
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Jplaya2023 said:
Steph is a great player but that warriors scheme puts him over the top. Nash was an allstar but it took Mike's system to make him into an MVP candidate and superstar.

Remove Steph from GS and they still win 50+ games
Remove leonard from the spurs and they still win 50+ games (check their record this season when he misses games)
remove KD from OKC and they still won 45 with russy
remove lebron from the cavs and they're a lottery team.

That alone should tell you lebron is the clear cut best in the league, his team actually needs him to win.
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Remove KD from GSW they still win the championsihp
 
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Gil Scott-Heroin said:
It's too hard to even begin to estimate where they'd fall record-wise if they only had ONE legit 3-pt shooting threat in their starting lineup (Livingston, Klay, Iggy, Draymond and Zaza). The dynamics of their offense would be entirely different, almost in similar vein to those late-90s Reggie Miller Pacers' squads (obviously with Klay playing the role of Reggie). Especially considering Klay is one of the more streakier shooters in the league; their offensive flow would basically adopt his inconsistencies due to him being the center of everything they do on that end of the floor.

Cavs would still make the playoffs, but the problem with working out how they'd fair without LeBron is that the team is built around his strengths/weaknesses more than any other star player, and there isn't a wing player on the team to just step in and fill the void on that roster.

You can't just look at how both teams would fare without their best players and automatically say x-player is better than y-player because his team would do worse without him.

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I'm not saying LeBron is better; they're on the same tier. Just saying that Curry's team is much much better.
 
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Gil Scott-Heroin said:
Put Curry on a team full of defensive players who're limited scorers, and give Curry the ability to put up 25-30 shots a night and keep him rested on the defensive end, and they'd win 50+ games. Take Curry off that same team and they'd be lucky to win 20 games. See how easy that is?
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What are you saying? Are you implying that's how lebrons teams are built, or just throwing out a random example.
 
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It's funny how you guys are arguing that Curry is a product of a system when Kawhi has been implemented into a system that has experienced tremendous success for nearly 20 years :dead:

Neither are products of a system but it is funny seeing these half-baked rationalizations.
 
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