Wait so kawhi really the second best player in the nba

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The numbers suggest otherwise, beloved.

Two straight MVPs, one unanimous; best regular season record in league history; best three year stretch in NBA history; one title; a few unfortunate events from a second straight; one their way to the Finals again; untouchable three point record for a season; offensive impact unlike anyone in the league. Keep your head in the sand though. :manny:


curry isn't in lebron league

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Curry's impact is only as big as it is because of the Warriors' personnel/system.

He's clearly not capable of carrying bummier teams the way the other top players all have proven to be able to do. His percentages go down the most in the playoffs too.

LeBron
KD/Harden/Kawhi

Curry/Wall/Westbrook/Kyrie


Hierarchy is like that. All these other lists are hot Coli takes.
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This place is a cesspool. The nerve you have to mention Curry's shooting percentages as if Harden doesn't shoot worse in the regular season and the postseason. Just complete and utter dishonesty.
 

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Curry's impact is only as big as it is because of the Warriors' personnel/system.

He's clearly not capable of carrying bummier teams the way the other top players all have proven to be able to do. His percentages go down the most in the playoffs too.

LeBron
KD/Harden/Kawhi

Curry/Wall/Westbrook/Kyrie


Hierarchy is like that. All these other lists are hot Coli takes.

This is bad posting.

First of all, Curry is the engine of the Warriors' system and he helps his personnel excel a lot more than they help him.


Second when are ya'll gonna acknowledge that LeBron spent his entire career in an Eastern conference that has been bad the majority of our lifetime and that, despite his obvious greatness, plays a significant role in his "carrying bummier teams" through the post season? While him getting to 6 straight finals is incredibly impressive, this absolutely would NOT happen in the conference Curry, Durant and Kawhi have spent their careers playing in.

Lastly, your Hierarchy is wrong. It's

LeBron/Durant/Curry
Kawhi/AD
Harden/Westbrook
Wall/IT2/CP3

Then everyone else.
 
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Steph is still the 2nd best player in the league. LeBron was the one that outplayed and beat Curry last year so he's the only one with a legit case over him.

Everyone else is Steph's child. Steph has outplayed Durant, Westbrook, Frauden, Lillard, AD, CP0 over the last 3 seasons. And he would also have outplay Kawhi if he could get out of the 2nd round.
 

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Curry's impact is only as big as it is because of the Warriors' personnel/system.

Bullshyt. Curry is the Warriors system. The team is built around him. The hell?:gucci: If it's because of the system then go and explain in depth what that system is and how it enables Curry to have the impact he has. :hhh:

nikkas on here say Draymond is only good because of the Warriors system and the fact that he plays with Curry, Klay and Durant. Now Curry is only good because of the Warriors syetm and who he plays with. So which one is it? :scust:


He's clearly not capable of carrying bummier teams the way the other top players all have proven to be able to do.

What bummy teams has Durant carried? What bummy teams has Kawhi carried? What bummy teams has Harden carried? :gucci:
Matetr of fact how many stars are really carrying bummier teams outside of LeBron? :gucci:

His percentages go down the most in the playoffs too.

nikkas everyone's percentages goes down in the playoffs. :gucci:What players percentages don't go down in the playoffs?:laff:
 

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I think you could make that case for Kawhi if he gets past the Warriors. Kawhi's game doesn't fall off against good competition which is one of the key things I look for when assessing the overall quality of a player. Plus he can do anything you want him to on both sides of the floor.

Out of the top guys in the league, only KD has an argument for being better than Kawhi imo. While Steph's scoring was sublime the last two years, he gets exposed on defense and can disappear if his shot isn't falling. Harden just doesn't play defense and relies on foul calls to supplement his scoring.
 

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Y'all just.gonna sit here and act like curry hasn't been running the league the last two years. Where is this slander coming from:mjlol:


Curry washed every MVP candidate in a two week span on the road without Durant and y'all trying to put him in the Lillard tier :hhh:

Letting a bench player win finals MVP for no other reason than he guarded lebron james because you couldn't play well enough is "running the league"?

Going up 3 - 1 and losing because the other team repeatedly hunted you down in the pick and roll every...single...play... is "running the league"?

Getting subbed out on a Christmas Day game because everybody knows Kyrie is going to take the game winning shot and your team does not want you on the floor so that kyrie can exploit you on defense is "running the league"?

Just the Christmas day game alone made me look at the mvp award funny in the light...u fresh off of back to back mvp's...the only unanimous mvp...and in a primetime game when everyone knows the guy you are suppose to guard is going to shoot your coach takes you out for defensive purposes...:scust:

You suppose to be the mvp of the league...except for when another great team needs to take a game winning shot...then the coach takes you out and puts shaun livingston in :scust:...because he knows that the guy who is taking the game winning shot plays your position:scust:


Imagine that happening to Lebron:scust:... "Lebron we need you to sit out this defenisve play cause they going to give the ball to Jimmy Butler. We going to put Jr Smith in for this situation."

Imagine that happening to Kawhi..."Kawhi we need you to sit out this defenisve play cause they are going to give the ball to Paul George. We going to put Kyle Anderson in for this situation."

It's crazy to think that in game 7 of a playoff series with the other team down 1 and the final possession to win the game...a teams two time mvp might be setting on the bench :scust:

The :scust: of the post game interview if the guy misses the shot...:scust:

"Steph can you tell us what you saw from the bench when Kyrie had the ball in his hand to win the title?"

"Steph when you were sitting on the bench in the last 9 seconds what was going through your head?"

"Steph obviously you were taken out of the game for defenisve purposes how does that feel, to not be on the court for the most important basketball possession of your season"

"Steph this is the second time you have been taken out of a game because the coaching staff was worried Kyrie would score against you, what are you going to do in the off season to get better defensively to change that?"

"Steph obviously you weren't in the game and we saw you on the sidelines yelling to your teammates. What were you saying? Did you know the play? Do you think you could have helped the team more had you been on the floor?"
 
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