“Wale’s music career would’ve been better had he not signed to MMG” who agrees with this situation? 🧐

[Jaguar93]

 

[Still Benefited]

He was fully dependent on the image MMG gave him as Ross hit his prime. Wale was still doing his HBCU steeze and female pandering beforehand, only difference now is he was doing tracks like 600 benz. Dude use to call himself a backpacker. The reality is Wale never challenged himself to make a hit or poppin song without a R&B attachment at his peak buzz and tokenized his music to the general hip-hop audience . I don't really think he has a demand compared to other artists in his generation.​

He doesnt have it in em to make hits without an rnb feature. He also isnt going to wow anybody lyrically,so its not like hes a dual threat like Fab in that lane. I think Wale reached his max potential without pushing himself. Someone like him would need to go real heavy on the storytelling and clever concept records/albums.

Other than that ,hes perfect to be a guy on another rappers label who appears as a feature. I dont think MMG was a good fit,but other than Kendrick or Drake i dont know who else he couldve fit with at the time.

 

[breakfuss]

MMG was a terrible fit for both Wale AND Stalley. It’s not a knock at them or the label but it just didn’t work and felt painfully forced. I don’t see how brehs is saying otherwise

 

[Devil Plisken…CMS]

He should thank his lucky stars Ross invested

He was awful

 

[Pegasus Jackson]

If it wasn't for MMG, Wale would just be a footnote about being one the first artists to get a feature from a then relatively unknown Lady Gaga.

 

[RennisDeynolds]

Meh.

Bro was signed to Mark Ronson years before signing with MMG. He had a bidding war going on and ran with Interscope. Came in on some crossover sh*t right out the gate with his first joint featuring Gaga. It was clear what kinda direction he was trying to go in.

The MMG move was a weird one, but I always thought it kept him alive. It was a poor fit, but he seemed like he was about to fade into blog-era oblivion before he inked with Ross. Thing is, he signed there and Meek was the one that the people actually cared about. So he got all the focus.

Once again I am asking what is wrong with that single with gaga on the hook?


Is it wrong to try and get a crossover single? The song isnt even "poppy" at all just has her on the hook. The rest of the album is not even going in that direction

He was set up to fail

 

[jadillac]

Wale was never going to be the top of the top rapper.

I think he's still good for R&B features, and has had a pretty good career.

Maybe MMG could've managed him better. But they could have been better for everyone they signed

 

[RennisDeynolds]

If it wasn't for MMG, Wale would just be a footnote about being one the first artists to get a feature from a then relatively unknown Lady Gaga.

Gaga was KNOWN at that time. Had a huge number 1 hit in "Just Dance" a few months before "Chillin" dropped.


Some of yall just say anything. Anyways I guess at that time rap was still geared towards "urban" demographics and it wasn't a good look for her to be on the track......

 

[RennisDeynolds]

Wale can rap just as well as the "big 3" of his generation, can do spoken word, can do better love songs/songs for women. He had no crossover appeal - i.e. no white fans.

 

[the next guy]

MMG helped him achieve a lot more, to be honest. I thought he would be bigger, but by late 2010s, he lost a ton of steam, and once guys like Lil Uzi Vert and Migos came out, he was done. I know not the same lane, but he was never the first guy people would check for at that point. Just like Lupe Fiasco

 

[MrRDU]

wale fukked up when he started the singing shyt. Since he went that route, it's been all fails.

 

[GrindtooFilthy]

Meh.

Bro was signed to Mark Ronson years before signing with MMG. He had a bidding war going on and ran with Interscope. Came in on some crossover sh*t right out the gate with his first joint featuring Gaga. It was clear what kinda direction he was trying to go in.

The MMG move was a weird one, but I always thought it kept him alive. It was a poor fit, but he seemed like he was about to fade into blog-era oblivion before he inked with Ross. Thing is, he signed there and Meek was the one that the people actually cared about. So he got all the focus.

MMG was def a misfit group

Ross
Meek
Wale
Stalley
Gunplay

Outside of Ross and Meek none of these nikkas have anything in common

 

[Kidd Dibiase]

He doesnt have it in em to make hits without an rnb feature. He also isnt going to wow anybody lyrically,so its not like hes a dual threat like Fab in that lane. I think Wale reached his max potential without pushing himself. Someone like him would need to go real heavy on the storytelling and clever concept records/albums.

Other than that ,hes perfect to be a guy on another rappers label who appears as a feature. I dont think MMG was a good fit,but other than Kendrick or Drake i dont know who else he couldve fit with at the time.

Ross was tryna get French, Nipsey and Wiz at that time as well

 

[Finesse]

Wale can rap just as well as the "big 3" of his generation, can do spoken word, can do better love songs/songs for women. He had no crossover appeal - i.e. no white fans.

BINGO


For what is worth a Ross cosign aint gon get "AMERICA" the same way a Jayz,Dr.Dre,Wayne or Kanye cosign will.


But yet in still Wale was putting up crazy numbers. He had MAD hits within the hip hop community. For a long time Wale music resonated with the college crowd/women/regular nikka demographic even more so than Cole and Kendrick. Only Drake had bigger songs. I honestly think either something went on behind the scenes wit him or he jus psyched himself out. Cause for a very long time Wale was a very successful artist. He was the most successful rapper on MMG he was putting up better numbers than Ross and MEEK. nikka had songs with Rihanna goin crzy for crying out loud

https://www.baltimoresun.com/2011/11/09/wales-ambition-to-debut-no-2-with-164k-sold

Wale Scores First No. 1 Album on Billboard 200 Chart

Rapper Wale claims his first No. 1 album on the Billboard 200 chart this week, as his new release "The Gifted" debuts in the top position. The set sold 158,000 copies in its first week of release, according to Nielsen SoundScan.

www.billboard.com

 

[Zero]

nikka was dead in the water until he signed to MMG