Was Pau Gasol even a top 15 player in 2009 and 2010?

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I mean the Kobrehs also have a point in that Pau didn't do shyt before Kobe and playing with Kobe helped him a lot in terms of taking pressure off Pau and media attention overall (all-NBA teams, AS selections, etc) but same goes for dudes like Kyrie, Bosh, and Love who didn't do shyt before Bron. At least Love was All-NBA 2nd team twice and was an actual top 10 player before joining Bron.
 

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Reb, you've been a lowkey Kobe Stan since the :hamster: days.:mjgrin:

Do you think you'll ever become a Laker fan again?
The Only reason Im stil fan is because Im committed to those shytty season tickets. Their fanbase is a turnoff. The Lakers fanbase is full of fakes. It turns me off completely
 

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It seems you been turned off since Kobe took ascension.
Kobe has zero to do with dumb ass fans. I never blame players for the stupidity of dumb fans.

Dont get it twisted.

I wrote this strip about two fictional sports writers in a newsroom for my site when he won the ship.


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A lot of yall dudes arent used to niqqas who call shyt for what they are. Im not on that “agenda” bullshyt
 

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Kobe has zero to do with dumb ass fans. I never blame players for the stupidity of dumb fans.

Dont get it twisted.

I wrote this strip about two fictional sports writers in a newsroom for my site when he won the ship.


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A lot of yall dudes arent used to niqqas who call shyt for what they are. Im not on that “agenda” bullshyt
I can dig it but the Laker fan base is very diverse with a gang of different opinions. You just have to...
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Dudes overrate the shyt outta pau to spite Kobe. Pau was never a superstar, this is just revisionist history. Half of y’all werent even watching basketball before he got to LA so I’ll give you a las

some of y’all are underrating him though
 

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This board consistently overrates Pau and underrates Bosh to push their narratives. Pau never averaged 20 & 10 once in his career (not even as 1st option in Memphis) but somehow he was top 5 lol.

These guys are idiots lol

Gasol a superstar :dead:
 

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Yeah this has gotten too extreme on both sides. But you’re overstating Pau as some sort of elite defender. He benefitted from the combined length of the Lakers front line and helped clog things up but he was never able to switch the way Bosh was. And he often struggled to guard or force the issue offensively on marquee players. He did a better job of guarding Duncan than Bosh did though. Let’s be clear, I’m not saying that it’s irrational to say one is better than the other but I always said Bosh was better. At that time Bosh was drawing young KG comparisons. The reason Lakers fan sometimes shyt on Pau is that their last memory of him when Kobe was still functional was Phil punching him in the chest asking him to wake up as he failed to do anything on Dirk offensively.
I already posted an article on Bosh’s perception pre-Miami of being a one way big. Gasol was a flat out better post defender than Bosh it wasn’t just against Duncan, he has tremendous reach his rim protection was legit.

I already said Pau was in the middle for great defenses in Memphis because y’all keep trying to paint the picture that the Lakers made him and he was just a cog among long armed guys, he was the longest guy pause.

Bosh face up and midrange was KG-like, his passing and defense were nowhere near KG. Bosh was a KG stan but was never on that level.
 

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Dudes overrate the shyt outta pau to spite Kobe. Pau was never a superstar, this is just revisionist history. Half of y’all werent even watching basketball before he got to LA so I’ll give you a las

some of y’all are underrating him though
Stop it. You were mad hype when the Lakers got him.

I remember
 
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