People who don't listen to rap have some of those outkast joints in rotation because they are pop music such as roses, hey ya, etc. A lot of them only know stankonia and speakerbox/love below records.
Was Prodigy a better lyricst than Andre 3000?
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People who don't listen to rap have some of those outkast joints in rotation because they are pop music such as roses, hey ya, etc. A lot of them only know stankonia and speakerbox/love below records.
Art Barr
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Illmatic ushered in the technical renaissance.
Not the sellout toy release and jiggy bandwagon on it was writren sir.
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Prodigy struggled with the sonic landscape change in that era.
Then ramped and used that period of uncomfortability.
to become an originality based golden veteran indie artist asset.
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Also in that time a number of group and producer heavy emcees and non emcees style rappers.
struggled in a number of sonic landscape.changes.
Especially in the post technical reniassance to the jiggy commercial mainstream and sales spike era transistion and beyond.
Ex.
Ju ju from beatnuts : came back
Parrish of epmd post epmd as pmd. Never came back
Erick sermon post epmd segue wayed into def squad's el nino.
Damn near all the material after hittin switches was recorded in timeline. Came back a few times
Kurtis blow ; transistioning from ol school to new school with kane's pen. Never came back
Grand puba : kinda never csme back
Melle mel : mever came back
Special ed comeback : never returned or surassed form
Many more.
They will come to me.
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apples and oranges man. i dont even listen to them with the same ears...
also mobb has WAY more music out there. i know raps competitive but i dont see a point in the poll lol
i like them both for different reasons
also mobb has WAY more music out there. i know raps competitive but i dont see a point in the poll lol
i like them both for different reasons
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Yeah but what reason.
can you qualify.
besides this emo fsce ass answer.
As far as skills.
Again.
When has andre in volume produced more solo material.
to even comapre to prodigy.
Both start as stock biter pimp.
or booty song style culturally divisive low skilled gangsta rappers.
One in dre.
that self admiittedly bit souls of msichief. Yet is nowhere near.
a styles war standout similar to group emcees.
like phesto on never no more for even starters. Plus nowhere near or anywhere close.
to just the rhymes dre fails to bite. found on the debut souls of mischief.
Now after unpacking both their dismissive debuts and giving a cultural mulligan. For the original culturally divisive debuts.
Then judging in timeline.
On the two culturally accepted group releases afterwards.
When prodigy matches.
the two album period group output of andre.
being this ramping southern rapper.
On atliens and aque-mini.
That andre 3k was nowhere near completely or clearly better on. than prodigy from the enfamous to Hell on earth.
That subsequent to busta rhymes in tyme. Prodigy's second rampup group outing is critically viewed as rhe best of the yearly releases. A year in which both were simiarly released. andre critically gains acclaim on atliens to aque-mini. Via the connection of erykah badu being a creative conduit and outlet. To also creatively springboard and bite off if. Whereas prodigy ramped via a diss from nas. With no brain storming neo soul outlet in a erykah badu. As well as never biting shuggie otis that andre 3k glazes. Andre 3k acts like we not supposed to call out the blatant biting. Where the pr ignores. Or dually violates hiphp cultural norms. By trying to pr this as positive behavior culturally in hiphop. When it has been outlawed since the androgynous pagan fashion show ending in beat street.
As well as the culturally taboo and new school way of thought divisive androgynous pagan cosplay too tho.
Of which prodigy never subscribed too. Or violated knowledge of self ideals. Nor struggle with identifying androgynous pagan hiphop culturally divisive behavior.
that violates key mores and norms.
In hiphop culture in the new school way of thought and knowledge of self model..
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If said SOLO emcee in prodigy.
took on battling his internal crew sonning them. JAYZ.
Devoid of inout ad a solo artist.
.versus a group rapper.
Who uses an entire brain trust of male and female top drawing neo soul funk and rnb collectives.
That never battled. Or NEVER made solo material devoid of input.
How in tha fukk is this duck tale of a group rnb centric rapper.
even being discussed versus a hiphop cultural group dual back to back classic album outing. A return to form comeback commercial group album. Including the definitive gap bridging ol school to new school break arguable club song and remix of the entire era.
While also following up said outing.
With a classic solo culturally defending emcee Debut and single.
Like real talk. Where is even the simple solo stricrly emcee vocal.
Throw a tv at chu solo record crazy moment. That andre has. As rhey don't exist. As dre never took on. Plus purposefully shirked any responsibilities of being a solo culturally responsible original devpid of biting or input recording artist.
Where as prodigy fell off.
Then made three arguable back to back era classics as a solo beating on himself sonically ground breaking indie artist. That single-handidly broke rhe alchemist culturally and monetarily as a consistent. Former teen artist released drsw from thr cypress hill family tree. That had a later resurgence of his career. Completely from the prodigy solo era artistry.
Even after large drawing credits on mainstream aftermath and numerous top drawing projects. Yet prodigy's work. Is what made alchemist into this draw.
That critically affords alchemist his current pop associated drasing success.
Alternatively. There is no solo work from dre. Boosting the profile of any producer as a solo artist. Which is wbybthis comparison makes no sense. As dre 3k has no SOLK material. to qualify incomparison to prodigy.
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Where is this non existant dre 3k cold ass emcee verse.
that competes with anything from prodigy.
Where is this real indepth non melody based rnb based introspection from dre.
to qualify against prodigy's non melody refuses to fake jax commercially.
indepth introspection based grief Records.
brought on and compounded from death.
plus physiological ailment.
from illness based pain introspection.
That rivals that classic psychological.
Meets logically defiant to god introspection of prodigy.
Again those moments do not exist for dre 3k.
to even compare to prodigy.
Another reason prodody easily destroys dre 3k .
as a SOLO AND GROUP EMCEE.
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fuc no lol liberation > any shytOutKast is one of my favorite groups of all-time, BUT...
nas spit better on IWW than illmatic ....IWW is the best lyricism ever done
Art Barr
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You guys just like sellout nas sir.
Sorry not goin.
So we not gon deflect.
Make the thread.
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When.
Dre 3k never served and was never gon serve nobody.
The problem with y'all is.
Y'all give props for the least common studio plant rap denominator.
Wnat does 3k do that was already done better by others. Before 3k even debuted.
Introspection.
Man fukk all that soft ass shyt. To cpver up you not gon serve nobody.
If i need all that heavy introspection.
I can go listen to a debut solo classic by oc.
Where at least.
i know an emcee was gon get ripped on times up.
plus maybe said artist had help from group input. If i wanna hear all this introspection.
Also like real talk.
all this talk a out dre3k but real talk. Didr so anemiac on the mic past soft shyt. There is not one instrumental of any song ever used that.
someone will request to rhyme on. Plus if a dj put that weak shyt on. The dj would be called supa wack and probably not get many calls. after to host emcee shyt ever again.
You keep making all these weak ass replies with no actual anything substantiative. To back up your answers which are clearly wrong.
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who_better_than_me
Time to go!!
Was Scarface the fist. Doc was out before face, wasn’t he?
The nerve of 3k to say rap is a young man's sport and saying he was gonna quit early.
Which he did. Only anger fans and play the flute to strangers in airports.
Meanwhile G Rap dropped the most menacing verse ever on that Muggs MF Doom track and he was over 50 then.
I feel like he got lost and disrespected the culture.
Meanwhile he had the passion and skills to be one of the greatest. From his Source awards speech to so many great verses.
Kool Keith, G Rap, Chino XL, Red and Mef were all way more disciplined with greater results.
Which he did. Only anger fans and play the flute to strangers in airports.
Meanwhile G Rap dropped the most menacing verse ever on that Muggs MF Doom track and he was over 50 then.
I feel like he got lost and disrespected the culture.
Meanwhile he had the passion and skills to be one of the greatest. From his Source awards speech to so many great verses.
Kool Keith, G Rap, Chino XL, Red and Mef were all way more disciplined with greater results.