Was that the most rigged quarter ever?

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Can you not read?

Cavs got their 15-point head start without hardly any free throws at all. They had a 26-11 lead before they had more than 3 free throws.

And it wasn't a "consolation prize of 5 free throws", it was SIXTEEN more free throws for the Warriors over the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th quarters. Which more than canceled out 11 extra free throws for the Cavs in the`1st.

Cleveland won cause they went 24-45 from three-point range and Warriors only went 11-39. THAT is why they won, and it didn't have shyt to do with foul calls.

Ya'all saying a 24-point victory where a team got five FEWER free throws than the other team wasn't earned because a lot of the free throws came in the 1st. :mjlol:
You skipped over more phantom calls in the first when Warriors started cutting the lead.
 
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You are always so deep in your emotions when GS is involved, you can't get even remotely objective with it.
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I'm going to pretend TheColi's most splenetic LeBron stan didn't just accuse me of always being "so deep" in my emotions when it concerns a team/player. Especially since I was actually the first one to accuse you of that very thing in the past, and all you're doing is trying to deflect by turning it onto me. There's a reason why the majority of our arguments center around LeBron, and not the Warriors.
Tell me how the hell 1st-quarter free throws decided the game. Tell me which of these facts isn't true:


1) Cleveland built a 26-11 lead before hardly any fouls had been called, with only a 3-2 free throw advantage.

2) The lead didn't get any bigger when the fouls started getting called.

3) For the rest of the game, Golden State had MORE free throws than Cleveland, 32 to 26.

4) No one in Golden State got into foul trouble until the last few minutes of the 1st quarter, no one stayed in foul trouble the rest of the game, it didn't meaningfully affect anyone's minutes at all.
I. Here's your first mistake - you're taking the free throw disparity after they went up by double digits in a vacuum, failing to realize that the Cavs were allowed to be physical from the onset. Meaning there were fouls that were NOT called during the process of building that 15-point lead. The refs didn't just heavily favor the Cavs after they built that lead (by sending them to the line), they were favoring them from the very start.

Examples of fouls not called when they built said margin:


- shot clock doesn't reset, forcing Durant to put up a 3-pt shot which he was fouled on


- blocking foul on TT goes uncalled


- TT over the back goes uncalled

And there were a # of times that Cavs got away with bearhugging both Curry and Klay off the ball.

II. The lead didn't get any bigger when the fouls started getting called? You do realize that adds weight to my argument right? If the lead didn't get any bigger when the Cavs were getting all those foul calls, that means the Warriors would've eaten into the margin had they not been called for ticky tack fouls. What makes it worse is that, the Warriors would've not only cut into the margin if they don't get called for those fouls, but if the refs began favoring them instead they would've most probably taken the lead in the first quarter.

And you had instances like this where the Warriors were not only battling the refs on defense, they also weren't getting shooting fouls of their own -


- Curry clearly fouled on the arm on a layup

III. The rest of the game doesn't really matter, because the refs decided the result/tone in the first quarter. They not only gave the Cavs that margin, they not only allowed the Cavs to keep that margin, but they took the sting out of the Warriors defense - which then led to them being passive on that end for the rest of the game; fearing another period where the refs would call them for ticky tack fouls. If a team is awarded 22 FTs in one quarter, it's gonna affect how aggressive they are on defense for the rest of the game.
You're gonna come back with random bullshyt about the pace and feel of the game. But Golden State kept making their runs all game, they just started missing again before the runs finished off.
Funny how if you take away that ref-affected first quarter, there was basically nothing between the two teams:

35-37
28-29
20-22

Even despite the Warriors dialing down their defensive intensity, they still went bucket for bucket with the Cavs.
 
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I'm going to pretend TheColi's most splenetic LeBron stan didn't just accuse me of always being "so deep" in my emotions when it concerns a team/player. Especially since I was actually the first one to accuse you of that very thing in the past, and all you're doing is trying to deflect by turning it onto me. There's a reason why the majority of our arguments center around LeBron, and not the Warriors.

I. Here's your first mistake - you're taking the free throw disparity after they went up by double digits in a vacuum, failing to realize that the Cavs were allowed to be physical from the onset. Meaning there were fouls that were NOT called during the process of building that 15-point lead. The refs didn't just heavily favor the Cavs after they built that lead (by sending them to the line), they were favoring them from the very start.

Examples of fouls not called when they built said margin:


- shot clock doesn't reset, forcing Durant to put up a 3-pt which he was fouled on


- blocking foul on TT goes uncalled


- TT over the back goes uncalled

And there were a # of times that Cavs got away with bearhugging both Curry and Klay off the ball.

II. The lead didn't get any bigger when the fouls started getting called? You do realize that adds weight to my argument right? If the lead didn't get any bigger when the Cavs were getting all those foul calls, that means the Warriors would've eaten into the margin had they not been called for ticky tack fouls. What makes it worse is that, the Warriors would've not only cut into the margin if they don't get called for those fouls, but if the refs began favoring them instead they would've most probably taken the lead in the first quarter.

And you had instances like this where the Warriors were not only battling the refs on defense, they also weren't getting shooting fouls of their own -


- Curry clearly fouled on the arm on a layup

III. The rest of the game doesn't really matter, because the refs decided the result/tone in the first quarter. They not only gave the Cavs that margin, they not only allowed the Cavs to keep that margin, but they took the sting out of the Warriors defense - which then led to them being passive on defense for the rest of the game, fearing another period where the refs would call them for ticky tack fouls. If a team is awarded 22 FTs in one quarter, it's gonna affect how aggressive the defense is for the rest of the game.

Funny how if you take away that ref-affected first quarter, there was basically nothing between the two teams:

35-37
28-29
20-22

Even despite the Warriors dialing down their defensive intensity, they still went bucket for bucket with the Cavs.

Exactly
How do you expect a team that has been playing arguably the best defense all year and the playoffs to guard a team that gets ticky tack calls from the get go and then when the warriors have the ball, they attack the rim with regularity and get hardly any initially

The game was close in the fourth but by then the warrior defense was done and the cavs couldn't miss. Hard to get on a streak or rhythm when an hour and half game stretches for three hours due to so many play reviews and random delay of game calls
 

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Those dudes stay pushing off to get open with No calls on it, opponents have to combat that style of play somehow:manny:
Jr smith and kyrie also push off but when you are selective with your calls it favors one set of shooters more then others. Same with those "moving screen" calls. Lebron and Thompson just like bogut and green last year set moving screens where they use their shoulder then grab just for a second or float with the defender to allow guys to curl and pop open for threes that are hard to contest. Both teams do it and a lot of teams as well but when you call it on one side of the ball a illegal screen but let another get away with it, it defeats the offense
 

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Funny how if you take away that ref-affected first quarter, there was basically nothing between the two teams:

35-37
28-29
20-22

Even despite the Warriors dialing down their defensive intensity, they still went bucket for bucket with the Cavs.

Ignore that the Warriors needed SIXTEEN more free throws than the Cavs in order to "go bucket for bucket" in those three quarters.

Apparently extra free throws only "carry" you when there's an opponent you need to bytch about. :francis:
 
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