Was the attack on Disco racially motivated?

[Mandarin Duck]

nah, it wasn't racial.

You gotta remember, White People and the glitzy coked up 70s 80s fueled Disco. Bee Gees and Abba and Studio 54 and the like.

Disco was just the first musical genre to catch stray heat after the heavy mass social programming of the mid-70s, where you could easily get society to hate shyt, just by having some famous people say they hated shyt.

It caught like wildfire, and disco became the thing to hate.

Yeah I know it sounds like some tin foil conspiracy shyt, but that's really what it was.

That's an interesting theory.

I've noticed in music (I'm saying since the 90's since that's when I was born) that you will have this musical acts that have huge fame and success then people suddenly pretend like they hate this artist or music act.

For example bands like Creed, Limp Biskit and Nickelback are cool to hate but the reality is they are multi-platinum selling artists.

Even in rap you had acts like MC Hammer who sold millions of records and they it seemed like suddenly out of nowhere it became coo to hate on him.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Looping a breakbeat isn't Hip Hop music...

hiphop is basically funk beats + syncopated chants/rhyming

That's literally called Breakbeat...

breakbeats existed before hiphop

The first formation of Hip Hop started in the 70s, but the creation of a Hip Hop music as a commericial artform instead of a breakbeat looped at block parties in NYC and on the radio started with Rappers Delight...which came out in 1979 on the tail end of Disco and is really an abbreration on how early Hip Hop sounded like when it became mass consumed.

nah....it's exactly how hiphop sounded prior to actual records

Afrika Bambatta dropped his first album in 1983, Grandmaster Flash dropped in 1982, Whodini dropped in 1983...which sounded nothing like Disco but was Electro which coincided with Kraftwerk dropping their electronic albums during the mid to late 70s.

The 808 Electro-Funk sound is more of a true representation of what Hip Hop music initially sound like instead of a loop of Apache.

hell nah the original hiphop sound was based on funk/disco-funk breaks not electro which is closer to the early 80's.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Low-key I think disco influenced a lot of 80s music I fukked with

disco influenced most music that came after it from new-wave, hiphop, basic dance music, edm etc..

 

[Tom Foolery]

Rock crowd hated on disco. They hated the disco lifestyle and the gays. I wouldn't sayit was all about race because white people were on the scene too.

I would say disco lead into DJ culture, which lead into hip-hop/house/etc

 

[IllmaticDelta]

 

[Off the Onion]

I doubt if black people fukked with disco like that

Black people invented disco

 

[Off the Onion]

Looping a breakbeat isn't Hip Hop music...

That's literally called Breakbeat...

The first formation of Hip Hop started in the 70s, but the creation of a Hip Hop music as a commericial artform instead of a breakbeat looped at block parties in NYC and on the radio started with Rappers Delight...which came out in 1979 on the tail end of Disco and is really an abbreration on how early Hip Hop sounded like when it became mass consumed.

Afrika Bambatta dropped his first album in 1983, Grandmaster Flash dropped in 1982, Whodini dropped in 1983...which sounded nothing like Disco but was Electro which coincided with Kraftwerk dropping their electronic albums during the mid to late 70s.

The 808 Electro-Funk sound is more of a true representation of what Hip Hop music initially sound like instead of a loop of Apache.

False. Breaks are the foundation of hip hop

 

[Biscayne]

@Donovan Gumby Good thread. I never realized the correlation. Disco is definitely a Black art-form, and as others have alluded, the White Rock Machismo crowd came through and crushed the buildings. @Sagat made the best point. Between the correlation of Whites bringing in Hair Metal in Ronald Reagans' 80's, in rebellion to the more minority dominated, "Liberal" disco movement of the 70's.

What's interesting is White people kinda embarrassing Hip-Hop as it became mainstream. It was like a more hard-edged masculine version of disco. A prime example would be a song like "The Message" by Grand Master Flash and the Furious Five. The beat is extremely Disco influenced but the lyrics and music vid are hard.

 

[ridedolo]

I doubt if black people fukked with disco like that

Some of y'all be saying the dumbest shyt

 

[Tom Foolery]

I doubt if black people fukked with disco like that

Donna Summer is known as the Queen of Disco breh

 

[Rhapscallion Démone]

@IllmaticDelta always come through with that knowledge

 

[Ol’Otis]

Some of y'all be saying the dumbest shyt

I thought I blocked u internet thug

 

[ridedolo]

I thought I blocked u internet thug

Internet thug. U corny cali dudes stay sounding like a white boy

 

[Ol’Otis]

Internet thug. U corny cali dudes stay sounding like a white boy

Oh god he's upset

Nobody moves!

 

[Biscayne]

Yes. It got real easy to make, you could make one hit disco record and disappear and white people REALLY wanted to restore the feeling. Disco being Black music was bad enough, but when every disco track turned into a gay anthem, everyone had enough. Everyone was catching strays too. You know you getting shytted on when they had days designed to NOT play your shyt like radio stations did with the Bee Gees.

that explains how country music came up big time in the mainstream after that. Everyone wanted to a be an alcoholic cowboy or a hardcore metal guy.


People hated disco music so much, when HIV /AIDS dropped, you had people thinking it was payback for all the funboy shyt

I never realized the correlation between the death of disco and the rise of country. This is accurate. Country became popular in the mainstream(and outside of your typical niche rural audience) in the late-70's/early-80's(around the death of disco). By the time Garth Brooks dropped his debut album in 1990, it was a wrap.

It makes sense looking back. Here me out now. John Travolta starred in the Disco film Saturday Nigh Fever in 1977, around the height of Disco music. In the film John Travolta plays a blue-collar young adult who works a dead-end job by day, and is a Disco Dancin' Savant by night in Brooklyn. The soundtrack to that film featured the BeeGee's and some of the top selling disco acts at that time.

Well, fast-forward to 1980, and John Travolta stars in the 1980 Country Music inspired motion-picture Urban Cowboy, about a blue-collar worker who moves from his West Texas rural town, to Houston Texas to work in the oil-industry. He embraces the local Honky Tonk/Country music scene in Houston, and his life is centered around a Honky Tonk bar. The soundtrack to this film featured alot of country artist of that hey-day(like Bonnie Rait, Mickey Gilley, The Charlie Daniels Band, etc).

Could Urban Cowboy have been a direct or indirect response to Saturday Night Fever and the "Death Of Disco"?