Was there anything more soul crushing than facing Jonathan Ogden?

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And i said that Madden made linemen mainstream in the 90's to the point that you knew many by name which he did.
And I mentioned he did it in the 80s, with those people you never claimed weren’t big deals outside of their city.
 

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And I mentioned he did it in the 80s, with those people you never claimed weren’t big deals outside of their city.
Who didn't know about Orlando Pace coming out of Ohio State after being hyped as a potential Heisman winner and the term pancake block being a household word cause of him. And no matter what Munoz did in the 80's doesn't take away from the fact that Madden hyping the road graders and hyping my Cowboys for having the first all 300 pound line is what made it "cool" to know about offensive linemen in general.
 

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Who didn't know about Orlando Pace coming out of Ohio State after being hyped as a potential Heisman winner and the term pancake block being a household word cause of him. And no matter what Munoz did in the 80's doesn't take away from the fact that Madden hyping the road graders and hyping my Cowboys for having the first all 300 pound line is what made it "cool" to know about offensive linemen in general.
Yeah breh, you making a completely different statement. Idk who was more famous, my only point was offensive linemen garnered a lot of attention before people like Pace and Ogden entered the NFL, when you said it started in the 90s. Muñoz is who all the people you mentioned were compared to back when they entered the league. Muñoz was the first superstar linemen because that was the decade when the NFL started becoming a passing league. Muñoz was in an academy award nominated movie in the 80s, for someone not known outside Cincinnati.
 

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Yeah breh, you making a completely different statement. Idk who was more famous, my only point was offensive linemen garnered a lot of attention before people like Pace and Ogden entered the NFL, when you said it started in the 90s. Muñoz is who all the people you mentioned were compared to back when they entered the league. Muñoz was the first superstar linemen because that was the decade when the NFL started becoming a passing league. Muñoz was in an academy award nominated movie in the 80s, for someone not known outside Cincinnati.
Original post said sum about multiple offensive linemen being household names such as Pace Ogden Roaf Jones Bosellli etc. I said Madden made it cool to know about the guys on the line which he did.
 
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I love Larry Allen but Reggie White is the only man I’ve seen rag doll him



In Larry's rookie year of '94, I distinctly remember Reggie schooling him in that Thanksgiving game where Jason Garrett had to play QB.

Reggie's weakness was Erik Williams. If Big E didn't have that car accident, he would have been HOF. Erik had that nasty mean streak.
 
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